Something God, the Creator, Cannot Do?
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EvoTards are such clueless bastards. Now we have Kevin R. McCarthy et al., saying the God, the Creator of DNA and living organisms, would not have had the knowledge to write and insert a genetic algorithm that controls variation.
Ya see Kevin, et al., think that evolution in a Creation scenario would still proceed via random mutation! That is about as stupid as you can get but Kevin insists he is making a huge contribution to thousands, if not millions, of people.
Of course he never sez what this alleged huge contribution is. Methinks he is full of shit just as his posts portray.
EvoTards are such clueless bastards. Now we have Kevin R. McCarthy et al., saying the God, the Creator of DNA and living organisms, would not have had the knowledge to write and insert a genetic algorithm that controls variation.
Ya see Kevin, et al., think that evolution in a Creation scenario would still proceed via random mutation! That is about as stupid as you can get but Kevin insists he is making a huge contribution to thousands, if not millions, of people.
Of course he never sez what this alleged huge contribution is. Methinks he is full of shit just as his posts portray.
posted by Joe G @ 7:45 AM
4 Comments:
At 2:23 PM,
The Reactionary Researcher said…
While I don't know of McCarthy in any way, we can ignore for the sake of argument the absurdity of his postulate that God couldn't invent and/or insert this genetic algorithm, and just consider whether an algorithm would be required to control variation. It seems to me that no such algorithm would be required.
Take the human genome: You've got roughly 3 Billion base pairs, which given a 4 base sequence and my quick estimation amounts to 10^1.8 x 10^9 possible genomes, which is more or less infinite for all intents and purposes. However of that large number of genomic possibilities, only a small fraction are functional. So the non-functional genomes will simply be weeded out by virtue of their non-function, leaving only the functional genomes.
The question then is do we require an algorithm to control variation, and the answer to this depends on your initial assumptions. If we start from the perspective of a single functional cell, then the algorithm seems unnecessary. Combining the initial functional genome with some sort of targeting mechanism (such as that discussed in my other recent comment), then variation is introduced in a targeted manner, allowing non-functional and/or inferior variants to be weeded out through natural selection.
In other words, starting with an initial, functional genome, one needn't have an algorithm in place; the input/output nature of the cell interacting with its environment combined with targeted --even if random--changes in the genome are sufficient to account for mutation, variation, and the subsequent development of genetic/biological diversity. With regards to the random changes in a genome, we don't actually understand the biophysics of these different polymerases on a fundamental level, there may in fact be preferred under certain circumstances that escape out methodologies. However, even in the absence of any control to the actual changes, the targeted nature or mutation in response to environmental cues, etc, are more than adequate to compensate for the lack of some 'divine genetic algorithm', which again to assume God couldn't do this is simply absurd, without merit, vacuous, and unsupportable.
At 3:02 PM,
The Reactionary Researcher said…
Just noticed an error in my previous comment. I wrote:
"With regards to the random changes in a genome, we don't actually understand the biophysics of these different polymerases on a fundamental level, there may in fact be preferred under certain circumstances that escape out methodologies."
Where I meant to write: "With regards to the random changes in a genome, we don't actually understand the biophysics of these different polymerases on a fundamental level, there may in fact be preferred mutations under certain circumstances that escape our methodologies.
At 5:02 PM,
Joe G said…
So all that would be required is some sort of front-loaded initial state, such that there are pre-specified, ie target, sequences, that become mutational hot-spots given some epigenetic event.
No way God could do THAT!
LoL!!!
Start with oxygen producing proks and when oxygen become present in specified quantities, badda-bing, badda-boom (for example)
At 4:32 AM,
The Reactionary Researcher said…
I'm not sure that the target sequences need to be pre-specified per se. Indeed the power of such a system would be that really any region of the genome that 'needed' to be modified could be modified. As I mentioned, there may be some underlying biophysics associated with mutational events, but with the exception of modifying structural elements, such as centromeres and telomeres in eukaryotic chromosomes, it seems as if the entire genome is up for mutational events, so to speak.
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