What is an "experiment"?
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experiment:
1.
a test, trial, or tentative procedure; an act or operation for the purpose of discovering something unknown or of testing a principle, supposition, etc.: a chemical experiment; a teaching experiment; an experiment in living.
2.
the conducting of such operations; experimentation: a product that is the result of long experiment.
3.
Obsolete . experience.
verb (used without object)
4.
to try or test, especially in order to discover or prove something: to experiment with a new procedure.
Yes, you can have an experiment without a hypothesis nor a goal, other than to find out what happens when you do something. Ever try something new? You are experimenting.
You do not need a lab, a white lab coat, a hypothesis nor a goal beyond wanting to discover what happens when I do this.
experiment:
1.
a test, trial, or tentative procedure; an act or operation for the purpose of discovering something unknown or of testing a principle, supposition, etc.: a chemical experiment; a teaching experiment; an experiment in living.
2.
the conducting of such operations; experimentation: a product that is the result of long experiment.
3.
Obsolete . experience.
verb (used without object)
4.
to try or test, especially in order to discover or prove something: to experiment with a new procedure.
Yes, you can have an experiment without a hypothesis nor a goal, other than to find out what happens when you do something. Ever try something new? You are experimenting.
You do not need a lab, a white lab coat, a hypothesis nor a goal beyond wanting to discover what happens when I do this.
posted by Joe G @ 10:47 PM
108 Comments:
At 2:30 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
FAIL.
from the definition you give:
" the purpose of discovering something unknown or of testing a principle"
HYPOTHOSIS!
and I'll repeat (and give you the benefit that it didn't get through the first time)
What do you think the difference between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?
If you don't think there is any difference, you can say that too.
Crossposting at AtBC.
At 2:37 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
"Ever try something new? You are experimenting."
To test the hypothesis of if you like it / want it. DUH!
At 4:15 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
To test the hypothesis of if you like it / want it.
LoL! That is not a hypothesis, dumbass.
At 4:16 PM,
Joe G said…
the purpose of discovering something unknown or of testing a principle"
Richie:
HYPOTHOSIS!
That isn't a hypothesis, either, dumbass.
And AGAIN, experiments are events and events can be phenomena, moron.
At 4:21 PM,
Joe G said…
an act or operation for the purpose of discovering something unknown
No hypothesis required, but then again Richie reTARDo doesn't know what a hypothesis is.
At 4:23 PM,
Joe G said…
hy·poth·e·sis (h-pth-ss) KEY
NOUN:
pl. hy·poth·e·ses (-sz) KEY
A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.
Something taken to be true for the purpose of argument or investigation; an assumption.
The antecedent of a conditional statement.
Don't need any of that to perform an experiment.
At 4:26 PM,
Joe G said…
But anyway Richie, you stupid faggot, your tard is out of the bag for trying to get me to describe something that in your little bitty pointed head doesn't exist.
Not only that it doesn't have anything to do with anything I have said about GAs. You are a sad dishonest tard.
cross-posted to various threads Richie is polluting...
At 5:14 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
I'm loving your epic fail Joe.
Again (third time):
"What do you think the difference between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?
If you don't think there is any difference, you can say that too."
Until you answer, we can safely write you off as a scientific know-nothing, caught out of his depth bluffing.
At 5:16 PM,
Joe G said…
So it appears that the way it works is some experiment is conducted/ some event occurs and observations are made.
From those observations we form hypotheses and then those are tested further to see how they stand up.
So we can and do conduct experiments without first having a hypothesis.
At 5:19 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
I'm loving your epic fail Joe.
Again (FOURTH time):
"What do you think the DIFFERNCE between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?" (CAPS to help slow learners)
If you don't think there is any difference, you can say that too."
Until you answer, we can safely write you off as a scientific know-nothing, caught out of his depth bluffing.
At 5:21 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie,
The epic failure is all yours. It has been obvious for many years that you are ignorant of science.
What do you think the difference between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?
There doesn't have to be any difference, Richie. Given your penchent for misdefining words an experiment is an event is a phenomena.
Do YOU understand that, Richie? Given your ability to redefine and misunderstand definitions I am sure you could make it appear that there isn't any difference bewteen them or there is vast differences between them.
As I said you cowardly faggot- Make your case and stop playing faggot stroker games.
Your first attempt has been exposed and this attempt isn't going any better for you.
At 5:22 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
http://chemistry.about.com/od/introductiontochemistry/a/What-Is-An-Experiment.htm
"What Is an Experiment? - The Short Answer
In its simplest form, an experiment is simply the test of a hypothesis. "
and it goes on to include "Natural experiments" in this.
ALL LAUGH AT JOEFAIL.
At 5:23 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
"an experiment is an event is a phenomena."
You believe this?
At 5:23 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie-
Lost count of how many times-
MAKE YOUR CASE AND STOP BEING SUCH A DISHONEST FAGGOT. THE WAY YOU REDEFINE AND MISUNDERSTAND DEFINITIONS AN EXPERIMENT, EVENT AND PHENOMENA CAN BE EITHER THE SAME OR DIFFERENT. THAT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE AN UNEDUCATED DISHONEST FUCK.
At 5:24 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
from the same link above:
"Examples of Things That Are Not Experiments
•Making a model volcano.
•Making a poster.
•Trying something, just to see what happens. On the other hand, making observations or trying something, after making a prediction about what you expect will happen, is a type of experiment."
Don't cry, Joe.
At 5:25 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
ALL CAPS METLDOWN FROM FATTY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Now dry your tears. Again:
"an experiment is an event is a phenomena."
You believe this?
At 5:26 PM,
Joe G said…
What Is an Experiment? - The Short Answer
In its simplest form, an experiment is simply the test of a hypothesis.
Yes Richie and YOU are in the simplest form. Obviously a hypothesis is NOT required for an experiment to take place. You can conduct an experiment so that you make observations so that you can form hypotheses.
As I said you are ignorant.
At 5:28 PM,
Joe G said…
e·vent (-vnt)
n.
1.
a. Something that takes place; an occurrence.
b. A significant occurrence or happening. See Synonyms at occurrence.
c. A social gathering or activity.
2. The final result; the outcome.
3. Sports A contest or an item in a sports program.
4. Physics A phenomenon or occurrence located at a single point in space-time, regarded as the fundamental observational entity in relativity theory.
Yup an experiment is an event
At 5:29 PM,
Joe G said…
phe·nom·e·non (f-nm-nn, -nn)
n. pl. phe·nom·e·na (-n)
1. An occurrence, circumstance, or fact that is perceptible by the senses.
2. pl. phe·nom·e·nons
a. An unusual, significant, or unaccountable fact or occurrence; a marvel.
b. A remarkable or outstanding person; a paragon. See Synonyms at wonder.
3. Philosophy In the philosophy of Kant, an object as it is perceived by the senses, as opposed to a noumenon.
4. Physics An observable event.
At 5:30 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
JoeTARD:
"You do not need a lab, a white lab coat, a hypothesis nor a goal beyond wanting to discover what happens when I do this."
*Actual scientist*
"Examples of Things That Are Not Experiments:
...
•Trying something, just to see what happens. On the other hand, making observations or trying something, after making a prediction about what you expect will happen, is a type of experiment. "
Joe 100% wrong. In other news, dog bites man.
At 5:31 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie,
I get it- you are ignorant of science and believe ignorant websites.
Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment. It fits the definition. Dumbass
At 5:32 PM,
Joe G said…
So an experiment is something that takes place, ie an event and it is also an occurrence, circumstance, or fact that is perceptible by the senses, ie a phenomemon.
At 5:33 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Sorry Joe, try reading what was written. I didn't ask for definitions.
Again (FIFTH time):
"What do you think the DIFFERNCE between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?" (CAPS to help slow learners)
You replied:
"an experiment is an event is a phenomena."
You believe this?
At 5:34 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Sorry Joe, try reading what was written. I didn't ask for definitions.
You stupid fuck- definitions are the way to tell the differences between words.
And your link is not the say-all authority you fucking moron
At 5:36 PM,
Joe G said…
"an experiment is an event is a phenomenon."
Richie:
You believe this?
According to their respective definitions it is true. There isn't anything to believe.
At 5:36 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
I'll help you some more as your meltdown is making you slower than usual(!)
Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?
At 5:39 PM,
Joe G said…
Make you faggot point. Or just admit that you are too much of a coward to do so.
I have things to do...
At 5:40 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
"And your link is not the say-all authority you fucking moron"
No obviously its you, the Parking Lot dwelling YEC Muslim tick and watermelon watching GA expert war hero! Given your credability, it MUST be you!
At 5:41 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Oh don't run off Joe. Be brave, like in the parking lot!
Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?
At 5:48 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
I see you didn't post the definition for experiment. Let me help you:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/experiment
"1.
a. A test under controlled conditions that is made to demonstrate a known truth, examine the validity of a hypothesis, or determine the efficacy of something previously untried.
b. The process of conducting such a test; experimentation.
2. An innovative act or procedure: "Democracy is only an experiment in government" (William Ralph Inge).
3. The result of experimentation: "We are not [nature's] only experiment" (R. Buckminster Fuller)."
At 6:04 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
I see you didn't post the definition for experiment.
It's in the OP you fucking clueless freak.
But anyway I know I can find scientists who agree with me, Richie- that doing something just to see what happens is an experiment.
And if you are too much of a dishonest coward to actually make a point/ case, then go back to the swamp and stroke your butties
At 6:09 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Oh don't run off Joe. Be brave, like in the parking lot!
Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?
At 6:12 PM,
Joe G said…
I'll meet you in the parking lot Richie- however it is obvious that you are a coward.
BTW ole ignorant one, exploratory experiments are experiemnts in which scientists put things together to see what happens.
You don't even know the basics, you fuck.
At 6:14 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?
Do you? Where do you stand on that matter? Please do tell.
That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand.
At 6:18 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Oh don't run off Joe. Be brave, like in the parking lot!
Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?
Oh and Joe - I'll post my GA work after you post yours :-)
At 6:19 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
"That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand."
How old did you say the world and the universe were again, Joe?
;-)
At 6:32 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie,
I was there, no evoTARD showed up. IOW YOU ran away, Richie, cupcake or were just too afraid to show.
Oh and Joe - I'll post my GA work after you post yours
That is what faggot cowards always say. However your GA work is irrelevant as you have already proven that everything you know about them came from reading wikipedia.
At 6:34 PM,
Joe G said…
"That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand."
Richie:
How old did you say the world and the universe were again, Joe?
No one knows, least of all you. You just go with whatever your butties say because you are too much of a coward to actually say something own your own.
At 6:35 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?
Do you? Where do you stand on that matter? Please do tell.
That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand.
Another prediction fulfilled...
At 6:35 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Oh - got nothing to post, Joe? Thought not, bluffer. The only way you'd meet up with me is if you thought I was giving out donuts. This blog is full of your cowardice, have a read!
But still:
Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?
At 6:35 PM,
Joe G said…
BTW Richie, your cowering behind your ignorant butties is not making a stand.
At 6:37 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Oh - got nothing to post, Joe?
I am posting plenty and exposing your ignorance at the same time. You are just too ignorant to notice.
Richie:
only way you'd meet up with me is if you thought I was giving out donuts.
Any time Richie. I will be there just say when.
At 6:38 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?
Do you? Where do you stand on that matter? Please do tell.
That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand.
Another prediction fulfilled...
At 6:52 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Joe:
Do you? Where do you stand on that matter? Please do tell.
Okay:
I do not believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times. That would be moronic.
Joe:
"
Any time Richie. I will be there just say when."
Like the time you gave out a fake address of shat your pants when you thought I was in town? LOL.
At 8:16 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
I do not believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times.
Yet you can't say why. Strange.
Any time Richie. I will be there just say when."
Like the time you gave out a fake address
How can it be fake if I said i will meet you there, dumbass?
shat your pants when you thought I was in town
You are delusional as I never thought you were in town. It would make my day if you were, though.
At 8:18 PM,
Joe G said…
Hey Richie, if not by definition, how do you tell the difference between words? Do you use a dipstick?
At 8:26 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Experiments examine hypotheses, Joe. That's the difference you're too stupid to get.
In your world, is *everything* an experiment?
Yes, I recall being told to ask for you at an empty parking lot.
Bwakakakakakaka
At 8:30 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Experiments examine hypotheses,
Yes they can but they do not have to. That is the difference you are too stupid to understand, moron.
Yes, I recall being told to ask for you at an empty parking lot.
Strange, I wasn't even responding to you- dumbass coward. Not only that that isn't what I said. But then again you rely on old maps and have never actually been to the place...
At 8:32 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
again:
In your world, is *everything* an experiment?
At 8:32 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
In your world, is *everything* an experiment?
No.
At 8:33 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie,
You are ignorant in all worlds...
At 8:35 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
what types of things aren't experiments? why aren't they?
At 8:37 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiment
"An experiment is a methodical trial and error procedure carried out with the goal of verifying, falsifying, or establishing the validity of a hypothesis."
Utter fucking fail, Joe. :-D
At 8:40 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie,
wikipedia is not a say-all authority you fucking moron. I have provided definitions that say you don't need a hypothesis. Obvioulsy exploratory experiments do not require a hypothesis you fucking dumbass loser ignorant dick licker.
At 8:41 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
I do not believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times.
Yet you can't say why. Strange.
Still waiting Richie- your turn
At 8:42 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
"I have provided definitions that say you don't need a hypothesis"
No they don't.
Again - what sort of things aren't experiments (per your own special and unique definition) and why?
At 8:44 PM,
Joe G said…
I have provided definitions that say you don't need a hypothesis.
Richie:
No they don't.
Yes they do. Obvioulsy exploratory experiments do not require a hypothesis you fucking dumbass loser ignorant dick licker.
At 8:45 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Joe:
"Yet you can't say why. Strange."
Me, before:
"Experiments examine hypotheses, Joe. That's the difference you're too stupid to get."
(supported by wikipedia and scientists, not disconfirmed by any of JoeTards sources).
At 8:45 PM,
Joe G said…
(per your own special and unique definition)
Faggot coward- I have provided standard and accepted definitions. OTOH you measure the difference between words with a dipstick, moron
At 8:46 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
what do you think these 'exploratory experiments" are exploring, Dinglebrain?
At 8:47 PM,
Joe G said…
Exploratory experiments do not require a hypothesis- that is supported by science and scientists.
Only scientifically illiterate faggots can't grasp the concept. and here is Richie.
At 8:49 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
what do you think these 'exploratory experiments" are exploring, Dinglebrain?
No one cares about your dinglebrain- it can't explored anyway.
Anyway exploratory experiments are used to make observations and then form hypotheses- as I said before you ignorant troll fucker.
At 8:51 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Why do people elect to do these "exploratory experiments", Joe?
At 8:53 PM,
Joe G said…
To see what happens- what the fuck is wrong with you?
But anyway- ignorant coward:
why do experiments?
As a complement to the previous post on “why do mathematical modeling”, I thought it would be fun to compile a list of all the reasons why one might conduct an experiment. But I am lazy* (though not as lazy as this man), and so rather than compiling my own list I’ll share the list from Wootton and Pfister 1998 (in Resetarits and Bernardo’s nice Experimental Ecology book).
To see what happens. At it’s simplest, an experiment is a way of answering questions of the form “What would happen if…?” Such experiments often are conducted simply out of curiosity. This sort of experiment teaches you something about how the system works that you couldn’t have learned through observation, it gives you a starting point for further investigation (e.g., you can develop a model and/or do follow-up experiments to explain what happened), and it can be of direct applied relevance (e.g., if you want to know what effect trampling has on a grassland you’re trying to conserve, go out and trample on randomly-selected bits of it).
There are limitations to such experiments, of course. Because they’re conducted without any hypothesis in mind, they’re typically difficult or impossible to interpret in light of existing hypotheses. And on their own, they don’t provide a good foundation for generalization (e.g., would the experiment come out the same way if you repeated it under different conditions, or in a different system?)
At 8:53 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Again - what sort of things aren't experiments (per your own special and unique definition) and why?
At 8:54 PM,
Joe G said…
I don't have (per your own special and unique definition) so go back to fucking your dog...
At 8:59 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Oh dear.
"“What would happen if…?”
Is actually testing hypothesis, specifically the null hypothesis regarding the relationship between phenomena. I know you had to go digging hard for that one, so sad, too bad.
At 9:00 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Again - what sort of things aren't experiments (per your own special and unique definition) and why?
You think that experiment = phenomina = event, so this is going to be fun.
At 9:03 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiment
"An experiment is a methodical trial and error procedure carried out with the goal of verifying, falsifying, or establishing the validity of a hypothesis."
Utter fucking fail, Joe. :-D
http://chemistry.about.com/od/introductiontochemistry/a/What-Is-An-Experiment.htm
"What Is an Experiment? - The Short Answer
In its simplest form, an experiment is simply the test of a hypothesis. "
from the same link above:
"Examples of Things That Are Not Experiments
•Making a model volcano.
•Making a poster.
•Trying something, just to see what happens. On the other hand, making observations or trying something, after making a prediction about what you expect will happen, is a type of experiment."
Don't cry, Joe.
At 9:08 PM,
Joe G said…
wikipedia is not an authority richie- it isn't even an academically credible source you stuoid fuck. Your website isn't the say-all authority either Richie.
"“What would happen if…?”
Is actually testing hypothesis
No, it isn't you lying freak. I challenge you to post a definition of "hypothesis" that supports your tripe.
I posted one that supports me.
At 9:10 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Again - what sort of things aren't experiments (per your own special and unique definition) and why?
I don't have a special and unique definition of experiment. Obviously you are a deluded shit muncher.
You think that experiment = phenomina = event, so this is going to be fun.
By DEFINITION an experiment is an event and also a phenomenon.
Again it isn't my fault that you have problems with the language.
At 9:11 PM,
Joe G said…
Then there are experiments conducted just to measure something- no hypothesis required.
Then again Richie doesn't know what a hypothesis is...
At 9:11 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_hypothesis
"..For example, the null hypothesis might be that there is no relationship between two measured phenomena"
Whoopsy!
what was your definition, again?
At 9:13 PM,
Joe G said…
How does that support anything you have said?
You do have to actually make a case as opposed to just posting a quote-mine from a source that has no credibility.
At 9:14 PM,
Joe G said…
And nothing that sez "what would happen if" is a hypothesis
At 9:14 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
By definition all cats are animals but not all animals are cats, dipshit. Hence:
"Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?"
You believe this. So I'm asking (for the umpteenth time) for something that *isn't* an experiment, per your 'understanding'
At 9:14 PM,
Joe G said…
NOUN:
pl. hy·poth·e·ses (-sz) KEY
A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.
Something taken to be true for the purpose of argument or investigation; an assumption.
The antecedent of a conditional statement.
Don't need any of that to perform an experiment.
At 9:16 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
"Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?"
You believe this.
Good luck providing any evidence to support that.
At 9:19 PM,
Joe G said…
All events and phenomena can be experiments but hey once all possible experiments have been conducted for any given event the rest would be pure observation.
And not that Richie will grasp this- most intelligent people want to figure stuff out so when they make observations they conduct experiments, even if only in their heads.
At 9:23 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Still wiggling, Joe?
PATHETIC.
Well try again:
"Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?"
Could you answer this please? If they're the same, what makes experiments unique from non experiments?
At 9:30 PM,
Joe G said…
Richie- coward- you have refused to answer MANY of my questions- just simply ignored them and prattled on as if your wilfull ignorance meant something.
"Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?"
No- I have already said that you fuck breath.
Experiments require observers- intelligent, articulate observers. Without that you can't have an experiment. Then an event is not an experiment.
Again you won't get it and you sure as well will never make your point.
At 9:31 PM,
Joe G said…
To recap-
Richie learned about GAs from reading wikipedia
Richie learned about experiments from reading wikipedia
That is why Richie is a clueless loser.
At 9:34 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
"Experiments require observers- intelligent, articulate observers"
Really? But you've just told me that doing something to see what happens is an experiment. My cat does that.
BWAHAHAHAH.
At 12:25 AM,
Joe G said…
"Experiments require observers- intelligent, articulate observers"
Richie:
Really?
Really, and that leaves you out. A world full of people like you and there wouldn't be any experiments.
But you've just told me that doing something to see what happens is an experiment.
Yes. Doing something to see what happens requires articulate observers.
My cat does that.
Obviously your cat is much more intelligent than you are, cupcake.
At 12:26 AM,
Joe G said…
Ya see Richie, discoveries require discoverers.
At 1:55 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
Fantastic. Joe Goes full 'tard.
Cats, are doing science, performing experiments. When Joe watches TV, he's performning an experiment. When he eats breakfast (and boy does he), he's performing experiments.
GREAT WORK THERE SCIENTIST JOE I'M SURE YOUR UNIQUE SCIENCE AND EXPERIMENTS WILL CATCH ON ONE DAY. :-)
At 9:49 AM,
Joe G said…
Richie,
I never said cats are doing science. I said your cat is much more intelligent than you are. Your retardedness took that to mean cats are doing science.
Ya see Richie, you are a deluded moron.
And Richie, iot is obvious that you are totally ignorant of science- you learned science from reading wikipedia- just as a moron would.
At 9:57 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
Look at your 'definition', Joe. Cats can do it, kids watching TV can do it.
You assert both:
"
Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment" (despite scientists clearly listing "
•Trying something, just to see what happens" as NOT an experiment)
and
"Experiments require observers- intelligent, articulate observers" (made up joeguff).
Cats do the top one, which is an experiment in (c)JoeLanguage.
There is almost no human activity that doesn't fullfill the second one. No doubt you are currently doing the experiment 'internet' after having done the experiment 'breakfast'.
Fucking idiot.
At 10:00 AM,
Joe G said…
No Richie, cats are not articulate observers, dumbass.
There is almost no human activity that doesn't fullfill the second one.
Any activity with just people like you as you are a moron and not an articulate observer.
But anyway according to Kevin R McCarthy, aka Ogre MKV, jujst about evrything we do is science, which is an experiment.
At 10:02 AM,
Joe G said…
Richie,
Just admit that you are totally ignorant of science.
At 10:03 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
No Richie, cats are not articulate observers, dumbass.
But they "
Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment" which you've defined as an experiment, dumbass.
"But anyway according to Kevin R McCarthy, aka Ogre MKV, jujst about evrything we do is science, which is an experiment."
So Kevin is the de facto arbiter of science for you now? I hope you're prepared to be consistent with that. Perhaps you should be nicer to him, dipshit.
At 10:05 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
Just admit that you are totally ignorant of science.
I'm having to learn (c)Joescience, which is done by cats and kids watching cartoons. No wonder you pretend to be a scientist - who isn't in your backwards world?
At 10:09 AM,
Joe G said…
No Richie, cats are not articulate observers, dumbass.
But they "
Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"
Prove it. Good luck with that.
I say cats just do things and stuff happens, meaning they don't do it to see what happens.
Only a moron would think cats actually say to themselves "I'm going to do this to see what happens"
"But anyway according to Kevin R McCarthy, aka Ogre MKV, jujst about evrything we do is science, which is an experiment."
So Kevin is the de facto arbiter of science for you now?
Nope I am just pointing out that you evoTARDS can't keep your stories straight and unlike you Kevvy has science training.
At 10:09 AM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Just admit that you are totally ignorant of science.
Compared to you I am an expert in science and I have proven that every day.
At 10:14 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
"Prove it. Good luck with that."
http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/rev/77/5/406/
Keep painting into that corner, ficktard!
"
Only a moron would think cats actually say to themselves "I'm going to do this to see what happens"
Oh try and push those goalposts, little scared animal!
the claim was (your claim) "Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment" Same old dishonest Joe, eh?
Expert in nothing about from making a fool of himself.
Joescience, with Joenetic algorithms (which are part of the virtual organism, not vice versa). You're a Tard's Tard, that's for sure.
And me typing right now - THIS IS JOESCIENCE OMG!!!!!!111111one.
At 10:16 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
"Compared to you I am an expert in science and I have proven that every day"
LOL! yes, in JOESCIENCE you are, which is a completely different definition than REALSCIENCE and is done by all people at all times and also by cats.
Magic stuff Joe, the old rule of just left you go and see how stupid you can make yourself looks pays dividends. No wonder you hate giving specifics, they always bite you!
At 10:34 AM,
Joe G said…
Prove it. Good luck with that.
I say cats just do things and stuff happens, meaning they don't do it to see what happens.
Only a moron would think cats actually say to themselves "I'm going to do this to see what happens"
http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/rev/77/5/406/
How does a bald link refute what I said?
"Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"
Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"- you are one fucking stupid faggot, Richie.
At 10:37 AM,
Joe G said…
Richie the lying faggot:
yes, in JOESCIENCE you are, which is a completely different definition than REALSCIENCE
Nice lying tardgasm- I have used nothing but standard and accepted definitions. OTOH Richie just relies on wikipedia and one other resource.
I rely on science and scientists and papers like the following:
Exploratory Experiments
And Richie obviously you have an issue with what Kevin said but somehow I know that you are too much of a coward to say anything to him.
At 10:40 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
Read the article, be less of an idiot, Joe. Ironic moaning from the idiot who throws out 'let me google that for you' links as evidence. You sad tard hypocrite.
Then we learn something about Joe:
Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"
Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"
Actually Joe, the vast majority of humanity don't think those words prior to taking an action. Cognition doesn't work like that. If you have a running monologue in your head, you should get professional help. Actually, you should get professional help even if you don't.
In JOESCIENCE, language is impossible,because babies would first have to think "I'm going to repeat these sounds" to learn to speak, and everyone knows babies can't speak, so that would be impossible.
FUCKING DULLARD.
At 10:46 AM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Read the article, be less of an idiot, Joe.
make your case and be less of a fucking coward, Richie.
who throws out 'let me google that for you' links as evidence
I did that for a REFERENCE only to support my claim that evidence exists.
Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"
Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"
Actually Joe, the vast majority of humanity don't think those words prior to taking an action.
How is that even relevant? As I said those morons, like you, cannot conduct experiments. It is only the people who say "I am going to do this to see what happens" who are conducting experiemnts- dumbass.
But anyway I see you can run your mouth but unfortunately all that comes out is ignorance and lies.
At 10:51 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
"I did that for a REFERENCE only to support my claim that evidence exists."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Its on the internet = evidence.
How is that even relevant?
Beacuse it shows what a fucktard you are for saying:
"Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"
Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"
Which is clearly utterly wrong and anyone with any experience with actual thought knows that's not how is works.
Tell us more JOESCIENCE!!!1111
How do we know if something is true?
Can we measure CSI
Who loves Jesus more, you or Gordon Mullings?
At 10:53 AM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
Its on the internet = evidence.
That is what YOU do, Richie, faggot. Just look at this thread.
"Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"
Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"
Which is clearly utterly wrong and anyone with any experience with actual thought knows that's not how is works.
Umm just your say-so is meaningless, asshole. make your case, if you can.
Or just admit that you are a lying loser.
At 10:56 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
"make your case, if you can"
Sure have it again:
Because it shows what a fucktard you are for saying:
"Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"
Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"
Actually Joe, the vast majority of humanity don't think those words prior to taking an action. Cognition doesn't work like that. If you have a running monologue in your head, you should get professional help. Actually, you should get professional help even if you don't.
In JOESCIENCE, language is impossible,because babies would first have to think "I'm going to repeat these sounds" to learn to speak, and everyone knows babies can't speak, so that would be impossible.
FUCKING DULLARD.
At 10:57 AM,
Joe G said…
Again Richie proves that he is nothing but an ignorant faggot.
That is not making a case Richie. That is just you spewing nonsense, dumbass.
Nice of you to ignore my responses to your nonsense...
At 10:59 AM,
Joe G said…
Richie:
In JOESCIENCE, language is impossible,because babies would first have to think "I'm going to repeat these sounds" to learn to speak,
Nope. That is just you spewing lying bullshit.
IOW Richie just because you can spew lying nonsense does not means it's true.
At 11:01 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
Oh, I'm sorry if its too difficult to understand, Joe.
I tried to make it REALLY simple so you could get it, using a Reductio ad absurdum (babies learning speech) to help you understand what a fucktard notion you'd some up with, but apparently even that was beyond you. I declare you too stupid to learn, Joe.
GOOD LUCK WITH JOESCIENCE, JOENETIC AL GOR'S RHYTHM EXPERT.
At 11:11 AM,
Joe G said…
Richie,
Just because your having sex with your mother and other types of animals gets you points with evoTARDS, those points don't carry any weight around here.
Just to be clear Richie- you are a sick fuck liar and a coward.
At 11:13 AM,
Joe G said…
So Richie spews lies and bullshit, has them exposed and sez I am too stupid to learn.
Learn what, Richie? Learn how to be a faggot liar and coward like you?
Richie, YOU can't teach anyone anything about science, nor GAs. YOU are an ignorant fuck- deal with it.
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