Intelligent Reasoning

Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Monday, April 04, 2011

Complexity Without Intelligence? Or an Ogre Without Intelligence?

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Kevin McCarthy tries to refute Intelligent Design by tryimng to show how complexity can arise without intelligence- see Tales From an Ignorant Ogre

He starts with a lie-
Intelligent Design proponents suggest that complexity cannot exist without intelligence.

IDists say that mere complexity can arise without intelligence. Dembski and Meyer write extensively about this.

Then he starts offering examples:

Our first example comes from the field of electrical engineering.
Dr. Adrian Thompson, in 1997, wanted to develop a system that could distinguish between the spoken words ‘stop’ and ‘go’ using a field programmable gate array. A FPGA is a network of logic systems that can be programmed to resemble any logic circuit. So, Thompson wrote an evolvable program to program the logic array.
After 3000 generations, the evolving program had developed a FPGA that could successfully distinguish between the spoken words ‘stop’ and ‘go’ using only 37 logic gates. This was considered impossible by human engineers.
What’s truly fascinating about this example, is that, as far as I’m aware, humans still cannot understand how the FPGA voice circuit works. There are 5 logic gates that aren’t even connected to the input/output circuit, but if power is removed from those five, the circuit won’t work.

Let’s see, a FPGA is an engineered, ie designed, device.- designed by an intelligent agency. The program is a targeted search written by an intelligent agency.

How is that complexity without intelligence?

His next example doesn't fair any better although it is an example of what nature, operating freely can produce:

Natural Bridges are also known as stone arches. We all know that these are developed by natural forces. We can observe the various stages of them right now. We can tell the difference between an arch developed by wind erosion and wave erosion. These can be actual functional bridges as three of them have roads built on them. One in Romania is even a daily use road.
So these structures are specified, complex, and, in fact, irreducibly complex… yet completely natural.

How is Kevin defining “complex”? His use of the word seems to be arbitrary. Methinks he is lying again.

And lastly Kevin brings up termite mounds. Termites are designing agencies. They can manipulate their environment for their purpose.

Kevin winds down with another lie:
When referring to genetic algorithms, ID proponents always say that the final result was ‘inserted’ into the code.
Unfortunately Kevin doesn’t provide a reference, which tells me he is lying.

This is why asshole evotards cannot afford to have ID taught in schools- it will expose them as liars and losers.

14 Comments:

  • At 4:37 AM, Blogger The whole truth said…

    You're a fucking idiot Joe.

    If ID has no problem with evolution, why do you call people evotards? Why don't you call them blindwatchmakertards?

    Did you fall when you were young and sustain major brain damage that never healed?

    You missed your contradictions in your statements about complexity.

    You're proving what a delusional retard you are with your comments on Uncommon Descent, and here of course.

    Uncommon Descent must be desperate for attention to allow you to post there.

    The clown would kick your pansy ass, if you had the guts to meet him.

    Has anyone ever told you you're a fool and a coward. Oh wait, never mind.

    Exactly how much CSI is there in a lugnut Joe?

    Exactly how much is in a dog turd?

    How about a galaxy?

    Does your mommy allow you to wear big boy pants yet?

    Are you suffering from small dick syndrome?

     
  • At 7:03 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    the shit hole:
    You missed your contradictions in your statements about complexity.

    No contradictions- I guess you are too fucking stupid to point them out.

    I will meet blipey- he is too much of a coward to comply with my simple request.

    But anyway, nice projection jerk-off.

    Is that the best you have?

     
  • At 7:11 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Why do you call yourself "the whole truth" when in fact you are just a shit hole?

    Why are you so much of an intellectual coward that you cannot support your position?

    That you call me a delusional retard means I am actually making good points. Thank you.

     
  • At 7:19 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    OK so we are agreed- you need to chamnge your "name" to "the shit-hole liar"

     
  • At 4:15 AM, Blogger The whole truth said…

    Why should I help you find your own fuckups? Figure it out yourself.

    By the way, have you considered getting some anger management? You should.

     
  • At 6:57 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    the whole tard:
    Why should I help you find your own fuckups?

    IOW you were lying, as usual.

     
  • At 4:06 AM, Blogger OM said…

    Joe,
    This is why asshole evotards cannot afford to have ID taught in schools- it will expose them as liars and losers.

    What would you teach? Perhaps you can teach them how to calculate CSI for the four examples MathGrrl gave?

     
  • At 7:11 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I would teach that ID is not anti-evolution.

    I would teach all that you evotards have to lie about.

    MathGrrl's bogus examples? No I would teach them what CSI is, not what evotards claim it to be.

     
  • At 1:43 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "No I would teach them what CSI is"

    Incalculable?

     
  • At 1:47 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I would just tell them the following:

    Claude Shannon provided the math for information. Specification is Shannon information with meaning/ function (in biology specified information is cashed out as biological function). And Complex means it is specified information of 500 bits or more- that math being taken care of in "No Free Lunch".

    That is it- specified information of 500 bits or more is Complex Specified Information. It is that simple.


    and go from there...

     
  • At 2:35 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "and go from there..."

    That it's incalculable.

     
  • At 5:16 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    True, CSI is incalculable for evotards. That is why they use a dipstick, dipshit.

    And yes I would make sure they knew that.

     
  • At 7:42 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    What CSIs have you, calculated Joe / Jim / John Paul?

     
  • At 8:20 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    That doesn't even make any sense.

    Thank you for proving my point.

    Why is it that evotards can't even stay on-topic?

    Do you assholes really think that the way to defend your ignorant friend is to come here and prove your ignorance?

    Strange that...

     

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