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Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the alleged theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the alleged theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Friday, April 01, 2011

MathGrrl Says The Anti-ID Position is Not Science!

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This just in MathGrrl admits that her anti-ID position is not science!

She quotes Robert Heinlein:

“If it can’t be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion.”

Well MathGrrl the anti-ID position doesn't have any math, so they don't have those figures.

posted by Joe G @ 9:26 AM  

19 Comments:

  • At 10:51 AM, Blogger CBD said…

    Statistical Applications in Genetics and Molecular Biology

    http://www.bepress.com/sagmb/

    A Variance-Components Model for Distance-Matrix Phylogenetic Reconstruction

    Application of the Lasso to Expression Quantitative Trait Loci Mapping

    Exploratory Analysis of Multiple Omics Datasets Using the Adjusted RV Coefficient

    Linear Combination Test for Hierarchical Gene Set Analysis

    Information Metrics in Genetic Epidemiology

    Interval Estimation of Familial Correlations from Pedigrees

    Large Sample Approximations of Probabilities of Correct Evolutionary Tree Estimation and Biases of Maximum Likelihood Estimation

    A Robust Statistical Method to Detect Null Alleles in Microsatellite and SNP Datasets in Both Panmictic and Inbred Populations

    Log-Linear Modelling of Protein Dipeptide Structure Reveals Interesting Patterns of Side-Chain–Backbone Interactions

    A Three Component Latent Class Model for Robust Semiparametric Gene Discovery

    And plenty plenty more like that.

     

  • At 10:53 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    What the fuck does any of that have to do with blind, undirected processes?

    Do you have any math that demonstrates the transformation from land mammal to fully aquatic mammal is even possible?

    That is the math you need you ignorant prick.

     

  • At 10:54 AM, Blogger CBD said…

    Let me guess, "evolution is not being debated" and "none of those prove that evolution is a blind watchmaker process" or how about "those papers are all compatible with baraminology"

    Heh.

     

  • At 10:54 AM, Blogger CBD said…

    Joe,
    What the fuck does any of that have to do with blind, undirected processes?

    Everything.

     

  • At 10:55 AM, Blogger CBD said…

    Joe,
    Do you have any math that demonstrates the transformation from land mammal to fully aquatic mammal is even possible?

    Do have any evidence for the intelligent design of such a transition?

     

  • At 10:56 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    What the fuck does any of that have to do with blind, undirected processes?

    OM:
    Everything.

    Liar.

     

  • At 10:57 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    OM:
    Let me guess, "evolution is not being debated" and "none of those prove that evolution is a blind watchmaker process" or how about "those papers are all compatible with baraminology"

    Let me guess- you still think your ignorance means somehing.

     

  • At 10:58 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Do you have any math that demonstrates the transformation from land mammal to fully aquatic mammal is even possible?

    OM:
    Do have any evidence for the intelligent design of such a transition?

    It looks like there isn't any other option.

     

  • At 11:24 AM, Blogger CBD said…

    Joe,
    It looks like there isn't any other option.

    There are plenty of other options you've yet to rule out.

    Vampire bats from mars for example.

     

  • At 11:30 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    It looks like there isn't any other option.

    OM:
    There are plenty of other options you've yet to rule out.

    Vampire bats from mars for example.

    Did what?

     

  • At 1:40 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    So we have vampire bats from mars flying out of OM's arse.

    Is there anything else?

     

  • At 4:31 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Vampire bats from mars flying out of your arse, circling your anus searching for cling-ons.

    Is that about right?

     

  • At 8:10 PM, Blogger CBD said…

    Joe,
    land mammal to fully aquatic mammal is even possible

    Why would the designer create a series of slightly different creatures, each one looking exactly as if it had evolved from the previous one when it could have just created

    BANG = LAND MAMMAL

    BANG BANG = FULLY AQUATIC MAMMAL.

    Why bother with all those pesky minor difference versions at all?

    And come to think about it, everything is a minor difference from the one before it. I guess that means everything is a transitional species!

    That means your designer is active right now making it look exactly as if everything is evolving via totally naturalistic non-telic means!

    You know what this means! It means your designer is so powerful it can anticipate what networks of interacting energy and matter would have done next if left to their own devices! And do it for them!

    Wow!

     

  • At 8:31 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Do you have any math that demonstrates the transformation from land mammal to fully aquatic mammal is even possible?

    OM:
    Why would the designer create a series of slightly different creatures, each one looking exactly as if it had evolved from the previous one when it could have just created.

    Such a series doesn't exist. The best you can do is a handful of hopefuls and one is a fully terrestrial dog-like mammal.

    But anyways I am asking you for the math that supports your position's claim that genetic accidents accumulated in such a way as to take a fully terrestrial land mammal and modify it to a complete aquatic mammal.

    You don't have any and that proves my point. All you have is opinion.

    And, as Dr Behe says all the time, evidence for common ancestry isn't evidence for a mechanism.

    So here we have OM ignorant of how many transitions it would take- because there isn't any math- and just baldly declaring there is some series with minor differences between them.

    So go pound sand you ignorant freak. Either provide the math or as MathGrrl says you don't have science.

     

  • At 9:02 AM, Blogger CBD said…

    Joe,
    Such a series doesn't exist. The best you can do is a handful of hopefuls and one is a fully terrestrial dog-like mammal.

    Even you won't be so deluded as to deny the obvious as shown in the evolution of the horse.

    http://tinyurl.com/455frdn

    Or the evolution of the whale.

    http://tinyurl.com/3hgesc2

    What has ID got?

    "It was designed".

     

  • At 9:12 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Such a series doesn't exist. The best you can do is a handful of hopefuls and one is a fully terrestrial dog-like mammal.

    OM:
    Even you won't be so deluded as to deny the obvious as shown in the evolution of the horse.

    Except I was not talking about the horse, was I? You are proud to be an asshole, eh.

    And you don't have any math to support your claim about horses.

    Or the evolution of the whale.

    As I said- a handful of speculative fossils, nothing more.

    You have no idea how many transitionals there should be. And you have no idea if changes to the genomes can account for the morphological or physiological differences observed.

    No math- all you have is opinion, just as MathGrrl said.

    Thank you for continuing to prove my point.

     

  • At 9:16 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    BTW linking to pictures is not scientific evidence.

     

  • At 5:07 PM, Blogger CBD said…

    Joe,
    Except I was not talking about the horse, was I? You are proud to be an asshole, eh.

    Only one is needed. What one is irrelevant. Case closed.

     

  • At 5:13 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Except I was not talking about the horse, was I? You are proud to be an asshole, eh.

    OM:
    Only one is needed.

    Only one what?

    Still no math, all you have is opinion.

     

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