Intelligent Reasoning

Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the alleged theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the alleged theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Monday, October 11, 2010

Five Years After Dover

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Well here it is, the Fall of 2010, five years after the Dover School Board/ Kitzmiller trial in PA.

And guess what?

The anti-IDists STILL don't have any positive evidence for their position and thepositive case for Intelligent Design has become even stronger!

This is why IDists love scientific research- the more we look, the more we know and the better ID looks.

CSI runs deep in biology- allegedly simple bacteria have complex communication and packet swapping networks.

All IDists need to do is convince some teacher in that school district to discuss ID in the classroom.

The evos will flip out and this will be back in Court.

Now that we know their tactics- they can't change because they don't have anything else- we can beat them like a rug.

107 Comments:

  • At 1:05 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Look at that--not one example of the amble positive evidence of ID in this post.

    This means that about 105 comments from now, JoeTard will say "just look at the OP" in response to a comment asking for positive evidence of ID. Perhaps he will think that the OP is too far away to look up?

     
  • At 1:51 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    ID is DEAD.

    http://www.google.com/trends?q=intelligent+design

     
  • At 3:00 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    ID is DEAD?

    Funny that it is stronger than ever.

     
  • At 3:02 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    blipey:
    Look at that--not one example of the amble positive evidence of ID in this post.

    I have provided it already- and positive evidence is still coming in.

    Start here

     
  • At 3:11 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    The anti-IDists STILL don't have any positive evidence for their position and the positive case for Intelligent Design has become even stronger!

    I take it that bothers evotards!

    Sweet...

     
  • At 3:21 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Actually Joe - I'm not bothered by ID, I just find it funny. Trying to corrupt science by changing it, looking to sneak creationism in (AND Writing that down and getting caught) is hardly surprising, but the histrionics of the movement's cheerleaders is preciously amusing to behold.

     
  • At 3:22 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich's position is very dead:


    http://www.google.com/trends?q=blind+undirected+processes


    ROTFLMAO!!!!

    Way to go Richie.

     
  • At 3:29 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    Actually Joe - I'm not bothered by ID, I just find it funny.

    Really?

    I find it funny that you cannot produce any positive evidence for your position.

    Rich:
    Trying to corrupt science by changing it,

    That is a lie.

    I find it funny that you are forced to make shit up, ie lie.

    And you don't even know what science is.

    Rich:
    looking to sneak creationism in

    Proven to be false.

    Geez Rich do you really think that your lies and bullshit mean something?

    Do you have to lie because your position is so weak it cannot stand on its own?

    People like you is why ID will win.

    Thanks.

     
  • At 3:40 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy

     
  • At 4:12 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

  • At 4:22 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    And Rich, thanks for proving my point-

    Now that we know their tactics- they can't change because they don't have anything else- we can beat them like a rug.

    All you have are PRATTs

     
  • At 4:24 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Ah bless, they're at war with materialism, the very mechanism they need to detect things!

    PS - looking for meaning in teh stars is called ASTROLOGY. I hope this helps!

     
  • At 4:55 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    Ah bless, they're at war with materialism, the very mechanism they need to detect things!

    Materialism is a worldview, not a mechanism.

    And all it does is limit the investigator.

    Rich:
    looking for meaning in teh stars is called ASTROLOGY.

    What is that supposed to mean?

     
  • At 5:03 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Your position still has NOTHING Rich:

    http://www.google.com/trends?q=blind+undirected+processes

     
  • At 5:07 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "And all it does is limit the investigator."

    Yes - to reality.

     
  • At 5:09 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    And BTW the evidence for purpose doesn't come from just looking at the stars.

    Too bad you won't be a witness...

     
  • At 5:13 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Oh, I'll be in the gallery next time. But the IDIOTS aren't that stupid. They got reamed and will wait for a new generation, probably calling it 'guided evolution' or some such. It'll still be the same stuff Paley rolled out hundreds of years ago.

     
  • At 5:20 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "And all it does is limit the investigator."

    Rich:
    Yes - to reality.

    There isn't ay evidenceto support that claim.

    That is the problem- you don't have any positive evidnce fr the claim you make.

     
  • At 5:22 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Well, we know there is a natural world to the extent that we can trust our cognitive faculties and senses. We don't know if there is a supernatural world and there is no evidence that there is.

    Occam's razor, thanks for playing.

     
  • At 5:23 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    Oh, I'll be in the gallery next time.

    Cool.

    Be sure to let me know who you are.

    Rich:
    But the IDIsTS aren't that stupid.

    Right- as I said we have your lying tactics down.

    Rich:
    They got reamed

    A reaming would have included POSITIVE evidence for the other position.

    You STILL don't have any.

    Go figure...

    No way you chumps will be able to lie at will next time.

     
  • At 5:26 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Be sure to let me know who you are." -I'll save you a seat next to me, honeybunny. I'll be carrying the financial times and wearing a carnation.

    But, There'll ne no new ID cases for 10 years, IMHO.

     
  • At 5:27 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    Well, we know there is a natural world to the extent that we can trust our cognitive faculties and senses.

    What does that have to do with anything?

    That doesn't mean materialism is true.

    It doesn't mean the universe is reducible to matter, energy, chance and necessity.

    Rich:
    We don't know if there is a supernatural world and there is no evidence that there is.

    ID doesn't require the supernatural.

    Hoever it is obvious that your position requires something beyond nature Richie.

    You cannot get away from that.

    thanks fer playin'

     
  • At 5:30 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    So ID doesn't require the superntaural but natruralism does? Tell me more. How is bizzaro world?

     
  • At 5:49 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    So ID doesn't require the superntaural but natruralism does?

    Not what I said.

    I said your position requires something beyond nature.

    That doesn't mean it needs the supernatural.

    Ya see Rich natural processes only exist in nature and therefor cannot account for its origins- an origin science says it had.

     
  • At 5:50 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    But, There'll ne no new ID cases for 10 years, IMHO.

    It depends.

    It depends on whether or not some evotards try to stop me.

    It very well could be that no one steps up to do so.

     
  • At 5:53 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    How's it going, Joe? are you teaching classes on ID in schools? Let me know, I'll call the ACLU if you are.

    Thanks.

     
  • At 6:00 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    None of your business Rich.

    If you lived in my district it would be but you don't...

     
  • At 6:04 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Oh, right. Extra-natural? Next-to-natural? Almost-natural?

    Perhaps you can define all these technical terms?

     
  • At 6:04 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    How's the description of a non-designed universe coming? Have you learned to cut and paste yet?

     
  • At 6:07 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    blipey:
    Oh, right. Extra-natural? Next-to-natural? Almost-natural?

    Perhaps you can define all these technical terms?


    Why are you asking me about the requirements of YOUR position?

     
  • At 6:08 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    blipey:
    How's the description of a non-designed universe coming?

    Again why you asking me about YOUR position?

    Do you need me to provide positive evidence for your position also?

    Obviously you are too much of a coward to do so...

     
  • At 6:19 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Paint. Does it exist a non-designed universe?

     
  • At 6:35 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Well, if you have to sneak around it must be real science.

     
  • At 6:39 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I'm not sneaking around Richie.

    Thousands of people know what I am doing.

     
  • At 11:32 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Could you name, uh, well, let's say 3 of them?

    Or are you sneaking around in a group? What would that group be called? Or is that a secret too?

     
  • At 12:03 AM, Blogger love1scent said…

    “WHO IS THIS ALIEN?” This Higher Power In The Universe.


    “It seems like many individuals in the world want nothing to do with the Creator of the Universe as if He is some sort of kill-joy, some sort of Tyrant, some sort of myth, or some sort of Alien..........This Higher Power in the Universe.”

    There is a book about this Supreme intelligent being titled,
    Who Is This Alien ? This Higher Power in the Universe...This Supreme Intelligence.

    The book's about Intelligent Design concepts that are based on scientific discoveries. Hence, it is science and logic blending together forever to support the existence of a Supreme intelligent being, somewhere in the heavens. It’s great reading. It's very informative, very enlightening, including the author's personal experiences and visitations with this Supreme Intelligent Being.

    The book’s author brings up the subject of evolution. “Concerning evolution, scientists at the Genome project and other scientists have concluded that there is an element of design built into creation that cannot be explained by evolution. No life form, be it a single cell, multiple cells or even evolutionary cells can exist without DNA. Genome scientist and other scientists have concluded that every life form is a product of DNA and the DNA molecule is a product of an intelligent source, a Supreme intelligence.”

    Genome scientist, Professor Francis Crick, and other scientists have come to a conclusion that the DNA molecule originated from some alien source in the heavens, some extra-terrestrial source, not from evolution, according to History channel documentary, “The Universe.”

    Yes, there is an intelligent life form beyond our galaxy, the 3rd Heaven...Many scientists and individuals are searching the heavens for extra-terrestrial beings; believing by faith that something is out there in the heavens. They will be surprised when this Supreme intelligent being reveals its identity to every scientist at the same time from east to west, north to south ...including every human being on this planet-yes at the same time……….It will not be a secret.

    Check out this new book, written in layman’s term, titled, "Who is this Alien? It’s all about this Intelligent being, this supreme intelligent being, creator of the DNA Molecule with all of its genetic instructions and intelligence “ to build you- a product of DNA, a product of the Creator.”

    Check it out on Ingram, Amazon, Barnes or

    http://www.kingdomcomeforever.ecrater.com

    Pass this link to your friends….Let them be enlighten…..Let them be informed….

     
  • At 12:04 AM, Blogger love1scent said…

    “WHO IS THIS ALIEN?” This Higher Power In The Universe.


    “It seems like many individuals in the world want nothing to do with the Creator of the Universe as if He is some sort of kill-joy, some sort of Tyrant, some sort of myth, or some sort of Alien..........This Higher Power in the Universe.”

    There is a book about this Supreme intelligent being titled,
    Who Is This Alien ? This Higher Power in the Universe...This Supreme Intelligence.

    The book's about Intelligent Design concepts that are based on scientific discoveries. Hence, it is science and logic blending together forever to support the existence of a Supreme intelligent being, somewhere in the heavens. It’s great reading. It's very informative, very enlightening, including the author's personal experiences and visitations with this Supreme Intelligent Being.

    The book’s author brings up the subject of evolution. “Concerning evolution, scientists at the Genome project and other scientists have concluded that there is an element of design built into creation that cannot be explained by evolution. No life form, be it a single cell, multiple cells or even evolutionary cells can exist without DNA. Genome scientist and other scientists have concluded that every life form is a product of DNA and the DNA molecule is a product of an intelligent source, a Supreme intelligence.”


    Check it out on Ingram, Amazon, Barnes or

    http://www.kingdomcomeforever.ecrater.com

    Pass this link to your friends….Let them be enlighten…..Let them be informed….

     
  • At 9:50 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    The anti-IDists STILL don't have any positive evidence for their position and the positive case for Intelligent Design has become even stronger!

    For example see-

    DNA and the 'magic rings' trick

    and

    Newly Discovered DNA Repair Mechanism

    Repair requires knowledge- knowledge that something needs to be fixed and knowledge of what to do to fix it.

    All observations and experiences say that knowledge only comes from intelligent agencies.

     
  • At 12:29 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    LOL@JOE.

    You never get past semantic jerking-off; "ooh the word sounds designy!"

    Amazingly, sheets of ice on lakes have repair mechanisms, oooh, design!

    And your legs are just long enough to reach the ground - ohh design.

    And there are holes in a cat's head *exactly* where the eyes go! - ooh design!

    Imbecile.

     
  • At 2:05 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    You never get past semantic jerking-off; "ooh the word sounds designy!"

    Actually I have gone way past that.

    Rich:
    Amazingly, sheets of ice on lakes have repair mechanisms, oooh, design!

    They do?

    What is amazing is that ice, a solid, is less dense than its liquid counterpart, water- hence it floats.

    And yes that simple molecule -H2O- is part of the evidence for design.

    You can read all about it in "The Privileged Planet".

     
  • At 2:07 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Oops- forgot-

    What, exactly, is your position's explanation for biological repair mechanisms?

    It just happened and worked well enough to take hold and evolve?

    Is that it?

    Imbecile.

     
  • At 2:20 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    You never get past semantic jerking-off; "ooh the word sounds designy!"

    I did:

    Repair requires knowledge- knowledge that something needs to be fixed and knowledge of what to do to fix it.

    All observations and experiences say that knowledge only comes from intelligent agencies.


    Also see:

    Intelligent Design in Biology Textbooks

    and

    Intelligent Design In Biology Textbooks Continued

    And all you can do in response is grunt and post a comment that proves you didn't read- or perhaps were too stupid to understand- what I say.

    All the while all YOU have to do is start demonstrating that your position has something beyond your grunts and drooling.

     
  • At 2:37 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Yes, having a molecule that ruptures cells when it freezes makes for a great substrate for life. Great design.

     
  • At 3:01 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Out of all of them water is the best-

    "Despite our best efforts to step aside from terrestrial chauvinism and to seek out other solvents and structural chemistries for life, we are forced to conclude that water is the best of all possible solvents, and carbon compounds are apparently the bes of all possible carriers of complex information."- John Lewis, planetary scientist, UArizona.

     
  • At 3:50 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Are computers made out of water? They're pretty good at shuttling information about.

     
  • At 4:01 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    Are computers made out of water?

    They wouldn't exist without it.

    Rich:
    They're pretty good at shuttling information about.

    Because that is what we designed them to do.

     
  • At 8:51 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Nothing would exist without hydrogen, Joe. Care to extend your non-sequitar?

     
  • At 6:58 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    And hydrogen wouldn't exist if the laws that govern the universe weren't fine tuned.

    care to keep exposing your ignorance?

     
  • At 7:09 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Hey Rich- do you kow what "non-sequitur" means?

    They way you used it tells me that you do not.

    IOW Rich your ignorance runs very deep....

     
  • At 10:27 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "And hydrogen wouldn't exist if the laws that govern the universe weren't fine tuned."

    Prove it.

     
  • At 10:49 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    It has already been proven- where the hell have you been?

     
  • At 3:26 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    It's not proven at all.

    http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2010/02/mit-team-offers-snapshot-of-life-in-other-universes.html

    "The MIT physicists have showed that universes quite different from ours still have elements similar to carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, and could therefore evolve life forms quite similar to us, even when the masses of elementary particles called quarks are dramatically altered. "

     
  • At 4:01 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Umm even those universes had fine tuned laws.

    And your position still doesn't hve any explanation for them.

     
  • At 4:34 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    So any possible universe is fine tuned, because it's a discrete value?

    You're the best teacher. I've learned any universe that you can count in is fine tuned for observation and any universe (seeded from changing parameters) is fine tuned because...well they just are!

     
  • At 5:31 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    So any possible universe is fine tuned, because it's a discrete value?

    No.

    Rich:
    I've learned any universe that you can count in is fine tuned for observation

    You didn't lerarn that from me- you made that up all by yourself- or maybe you had help.

    any universe (seeded from changing parameters) is fine tuned because

    Umm who changed teh parameters and who created those parameters?

    As I said your position doesn't have any explanation for those laws.

     
  • At 7:04 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    I see you forgot to name 3 of the 1000s of people who know what you're doing.

    Could you do that now?

     
  • At 7:10 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    No, I didn't forget.

    But I do think it's cute that you think I have to answer to you...

     
  • At 8:38 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Oooh, too bad! That meme is old (even for you). You are not answerable to anyone, Joe.

    Now, how about just 2 of the 1000s of people who know what you're doing? Surely you can remember 2 names?

     
  • At 8:51 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I can remember most of their names.

    25 are named Joe

    There are 15 Carols

    4 Ethans

    7 Phils

    5 Jills

    17 Jeffs


    OK that is more than 3.

     
  • At 8:59 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    And Steves and Stephens, they're part of the group.

    One Shawn, and 2 Seans

    14 Mikes, 11 Bills, 11 Petes, 14 Sues, 23 varieties of Chrises, one Hal, 2 Arts, 4 Jeans, 5 Berts/ Burts.

     
  • At 9:33 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    That's wonderful, please forward my email address to each of them, so that I can verify your claims.

     
  • At 7:04 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Just as soon as tyou strt providing pitive evidence for your position- including a testable hypothesis.

    Intellectual cowards- like you- don't get anything else from me

     
  • At 10:24 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Umm who changed teh parameters and who created those parameters?"

    1. and who created the parameter creator?
    2. and who created him?
    3. go to 2.

     
  • At 11:43 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Don't forget "ID Guy" who isn't "Joe G" at all, no siree bob!

     
  • At 12:43 PM, Blogger Thorton said…

    Joe G said…

    And Steves and Stephens, they're part of the group.

    One Shawn, and 2 Seans

    14 Mikes, 11 Bills, 11 Petes, 14 Sues, 23 varieties of Chrises, one Hal, 2 Arts, 4 Jeans, 5 Berts/ Burts


    Wow Joe, I had no idea you had that many sockpuppets.

     
  • At 12:49 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    No thorton- those are the names of some of the people you tried to solicite sex from when you had that primo job of mall cop trainee.

     
  • At 12:52 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "Umm who changed the parameters and who created those parameters?"

    Rich:
    1. and who created the parameter creator?

    We don't need to know that.

    Ya see we don't know who designed and built Stonehenge beyond vague references to humans.

    But we have very good reasons to infer it was designed.

    IOW Richie once again you expose your ignorance of how an investigation works.

     
  • At 12:54 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    Don't forget "ID Guy" who isn't "Joe G" at all, no siree bob!

    Jim doesn't live in New Hampshire.

    So he would't be part of that group.

     
  • At 1:07 PM, Blogger Thorton said…

    Hey Joe, who designed the original humans Adam and Eve?

     
  • At 1:33 PM, Blogger love1scent said…

    ID IS ALIVE AND WELL FOREVER AND SO IS THE CREATOR...

    The Anti id's refuse to accept the facts of scientific evidence that support the ID Concepts....since it means accepting the fact that there is a Creator, the Lord God of heaven....so alien to the Anti ID'S as if the Creator is some sort of kill-joy, some sort of tyrant, some sort of myth, or some sort of Alien to be fearful of........Amen...........Lou

     
  • At 2:17 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Rich:
    1. and who created the parameter creator?

    We don't need to know that."

    But if you think about *this line of reasoning* (which you've embarked upon) you might see it's fallacious nature.

     
  • At 4:19 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    thorton:
    Hey Joe, who designed the original humans Adam and Eve?

    I don't think those were the original humans.

     
  • At 4:30 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "Rich:
    1. and who created the parameter creator?

    We don't need to know that."

    Rich:
    But if you think about *this line of reasoning* (which you've embarked upon) you might see it's fallacious nature.

    Thought about it and it isn't fallacious at all.

    Perhaps you could make your case as opposed to spewing false accusations all the time.

    In the meantime-

    who designed the designer?

    and

    who designed the designer

     
  • At 4:31 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    And Rich, if you tried to provide a testable hypothesis for your position you would see its fallacious nature.

     
  • At 5:33 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Let's see, e-coli and citrate?

     
  • At 5:35 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    The point is Joe, either have the balls to go all the way up the 'design chain' (because everything must have a more complex designer than itself) or accept that complexity can arise without design.

     
  • At 10:16 PM, Blogger Thorton said…

    Joe G said...

    thorton:
    Hey Joe, who designed the original humans Adam and Eve?

    I don't think those were the original humans.


    You said they were yesterday. Did you change your mind since then?

     
  • At 12:46 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    JoeTard: "Jim doesn't live in New Hampshire.

    So he would't be part of that group."

    You're saying that only people in New Hampshire know what you're doing. That gives us a starting point for discussion.

     
  • At 12:47 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    For all of us who are not in New Hampshire, I guess you'll have to explain it to us. Why don't you star with:

    1. Describe a non-designed universe.

     
  • At 7:03 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    blipey:
    You're saying that only people in New Hampshire know what you're doing.

    Nope.

     
  • At 7:05 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    Let's see, e-coli and citrate?

    What about it Rich?

    My bet is you don't even know what that is all about.

    nd you want to know something else?

    e. coli "evolving" into e. coli fits in with baraminology!

     
  • At 7:09 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    The point is Joe, either have the balls to go all the way up the 'design chain' (because everything must have a more complex designer than itself) or accept that complexity can arise without design.

    Wow- way to ignore all the reasons that your argument is fallacious.

    Ya see this is how evotards operate and why evos shouldn't stand a chance at the next trial.

    ID lawyer to expert evotard:

    Please provide a testable hypothesis and positive evidence for your position


    evotard implodes on stand

     
  • At 7:10 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    hey thorton- is it true that after you shoot your load into your biyfreinds rectum that you suck it out with a straw?

     
  • At 7:13 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    blipey:
    1. Describe a non-designed universe

    Go ahead.

    That is your position.

    Why do you need me to describe your position?

    Are you saying that you are soo much of an ignorant coward that you need your opponent's help?

    LOL!!!

     
  • At 7:20 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    The point is Joe, either have the balls to go all the way up the 'design chain'

    Let's see Rich is such a ball-less wonder he can't even provide a testable hypothesis for his position!

    And when challeged to provide positive evidence for his position all he do is equivocate!

    Rich evolutionists are ball-less pussies and you, thorton, blipey, zachriel, oleg et al., and perfect exemplars of that.

     
  • At 7:35 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    More evidence tat evos don't have any balls:

    The theory of evolution starts with living organisms- IOW evos don't have the balls to include abiogenesis.

    Materialists have to start with the universe already in existence- they don't have the balls to admit that natural processes only exist in nature and therefor cannot account for its origins thereby shooting down their whole position.

    So evos don't have the balls to produce a tesable hypothesis for their position.

    They don't have the balls to include abiogenesis in their "theory".

    And they don't have the balls to admit their position is a non-starter.

     
  • At 10:24 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    Blipey asks JoeTard to name the people who know what he's doing.

    JoeTard gives a list.

    Rich tells JoeTard not to forget "ID Guy" on his list.

    JoeTard says, "Jim doesn't live in New Hampshire. So he would't be part of that group."

    Blipey points out that this means that the only people who know what JoeTard is doing live in New Hampshire. JoeTard has made this an explicit requirement of being on the list.

    JoeTard responds, "Nope."

    JoeTard wonders why no one takes him seriously (still waiting on the list of scientific organizations that take you seriously, JoeTard--are they all in New Hampshire as well?).

     
  • At 10:52 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Too bad Erik Pratt won't be a witness for the evotards...

     
  • At 2:02 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    I'll pay for Eriks flights and room to be in the gallery, if he wants. So we can both be there. I'd love to see your Gish Gallup in real life. Do a Powerpoint Presentation, please!

     
  • At 2:10 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    What Gish gallup?

    However I would love to see both of your faces when I get to talk about ID and evolution and you are forced to sit there and take it.

    The best part will be when your side's experts can't refute anything I said.

     
  • At 2:36 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Well, you've got it all planned out. Do you have the stones to make it happen? I'll video it and we can discuss where it all went wrong for you afterwards.

     
  • At 2:49 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Again with the stones!

    Obviously you don't have the stones to actually ante up and start supporting your position and that will be demonstrated in all the experts if it comes down to that.

     
  • At 3:05 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Who are you going to call as your expert witnesses, Joe?

     
  • At 3:50 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I expect to enlist the usual suspects.

    As I said now that we know your position's one and only tctic those guys will be lining up to testify.

     
  • At 4:06 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Behe and Demsbki wont testify. You might get Ray Comfort.

     
  • At 4:20 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    You might try Southern Comfort!

     
  • At 8:08 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Oh, that'll be fine, Joe. I'm all for sitting there and watching you testify (Testify?).

    I'll pay for my own ticket, Rich; but we'll go dutch on the whisky. :)

     
  • At 8:43 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I'll bake the cake...

     
  • At 9:10 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    No need. Just talk under oath.

     
  • At 9:36 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Should be good- especially seeing the evotard experts will also have to testify under oath and I will be one of the people planning the questions.

     
  • At 10:17 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Promise! I don't know if I've ever been more excited.

     
  • At 10:19 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Promise- and I promise your position's experts will look like the chumps they are.

     
  • At 11:06 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Set a date, Joe! I'd like to book the time off

     
  • At 12:59 AM, Blogger Thorton said…

    Joe G said...

    I'll bake the cake...


    LOL! As long as no one asks you to take the stand and calculate the CSI in it.

     
  • At 8:43 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Rich:
    As long as no one asks you to take the stand and calculate the CSI in it.

    That will be a planned part of my testimony.

    And I can't plan a date because I have no idea if it will ever happen.

    Ya see I am sure that by the time my daughter gets to high school ID will be accepted.

     
  • At 9:46 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Oooohh!!!!! Waterloo! Better and better.

     
  • At 10:14 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Whatever, little Napolean (wannabe)...

     

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