Natural Processes Cannot Account for the Origin of Nature
They don't seem to understand the basic and simple fact that natural processes only exist in nature and therefor cannot account for its origins.
That means that there position requires something beyond nature.
This is important because they try to discredit ID by incorrectly saying that ID requires the supernatural. They say that because ID requires something beyond nature to design nature. That makes sense. However not everything beyond nature, or before it, has to be supernatural. As I said before the designer, at best, could be labeled pre-natural.
What doesn't make any sense is that there position regresses to the same point yet they do not apply their criteria evenly.
IOW the anti-ID mob is a dishonest lot, which I have known for many, many years.