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Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Friday, July 31, 2009

The H2O2 Experiment

Tomorrow I am starting a regimen of hydrogen peroxide- food grade 35%- diluted in water and down the chute.

This is supposed to help cleanse my body and eliminate and/ or prevent many types of diseases- including cancer and AIDS.

I just want to be ready for the upcoming flu season, as well as the lingering swine flu.

And seeing that my family has a history of cancer (mom, dad and one sister), this could be another one of my preventative measures.

Stay tuned for more...

53 Comments:

  • At 10:09 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    How much are you diluting this? And more laughably, how is this regimen supposed to prevent AIDS?

     
  • At 5:19 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Day 1- 4 drops per 8 oz distilled water

    Day 2- 5 drops per

    Add a drop per day up to 25, then back that off down to 3 drops

    3 times a day on an empty stomach

    (3 hours after your meal and 1 hour before your next meal)


    And allegedly "all disease causing micro-organisms, viruses, bacteia, toxins and pathogens are eradicated in the presense of sufficient amounts of oxygen in the blood and cells"

    Also it has been alleged that "dozens of AIDS patients have reversed their death sentence"

     
  • At 6:02 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    You are aware that oxygen is generally a toxic substance?

     
  • At 6:26 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    You are aware that oxygen is generally a toxic substance?-

    In what quantities?

    Allegedly an increase of Earth's oxygen led to an increase in size of its organisms.

    We cannot live without it.

    But yes oxygen is toxic to anaerobic organisms.

     
  • At 6:44 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Well, the 3% solution available at your local drugstore specifically warns against ingestion and dentists discourage swishing with this same solution.

    Your regimen sounds as if it will be below this concentration, but some care would seem to be in order.

    Also, at such small concentrations, what possible health benefits could be expected?

     
  • At 6:58 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Well, the 3% solution available at your local drugstore specifically warns against ingestion and dentists discourage swishing with this same solution.-

    And the stuff I use is flammable and if it gets on your skin it will burn.

    Do you have a point?

    Yes I wear gloves and goggles when handling it.

    Also, at such small concentrations, what possible health benefits could be expected?-

    From what I have read plenty of benefits such as not getting sick and never getting cancer.

     
  • At 7:15 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    do you have any cites for these papers?

     
  • At 7:46 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "Hydrogen Peroxide Medical Miracle", W C Douglass MD

    "The Many Benefits of Hydrogen Peroxide", Dr D G Williams

    "Killing of Blood-Stage Murine Malarial Parasites by Hydrogen Peroxide"

     
  • At 7:52 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Medical Miracle or Health-Care Hoax?
    Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in Healing


    (That site says that my drinking it may be corrosive to my stomach and sm intestine.)

     
  • At 8:43 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    W C Douglass and D G Williams appear to be guys who are mostly interested in selling stuff to people: books, websites that are named after themselves, therapy kits and the like.

    Do you have any cites to actual research papers? All of your cites are merely essays.

     
  • At 7:55 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Whatever Erik.

    Do your own freakin' research.

    BTW pharmaceutical companies are only interested in selling people stuff- they don't want you to be well.

    Also there isn't any money in it for them if people use H2O2.

     
  • At 8:36 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Corecting another one of Erik's lies:

    "Killing of Blood-Stage Murine Malarial Parasites by Hydrogen Peroxide"

    Yup it's a research paper- peer-reviewed...

     
  • At 10:02 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    Hey, just pointing out stuff, Joe. I read the articles, I know what they say. I just find it strange that your preferred method of information gathering is to consult the Dr. Phil types.

    But, as you said, whatever.

    Thanks for pointing out the actual research paper; I'm reading it right now.

     
  • At 10:44 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    Sorry I was on the wrong thread. I'll post this in the correct spot. Your inconsistency is shining through, Joe.

    You complained when I cited a paper a handful of years old. Your paper is from 1982! Surely, there's been some more recent research?

     
  • At 12:26 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    You complained when I cited a paper a handful of years old.-

    Really? When?

    And there is more research and if you do some research I am sure you will find it- or maybe not because you don't appear capable of doing much besides griping and complaining.

     
  • At 12:28 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    And Erik, just because you think those doctors are "Dr Phil types" (whatever that means) that doesn't make it so.

     
  • At 12:30 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    From the first link I provided:

    Although few of us have ever heard of them, bio-oxidative therapies have been around for a long time. They have been used clinically by European physicians for over a century, and were first reported by Dr. T.H. Oliver in the British medical publicatio n The Lancet in 1920.1 Since that time, they have been studied in major medical research centers throughout the world, including Baylor University, Yale University, The University of California (Los Angeles) and Harvard University in the United States, as well as in medical schools and laboratories in Great Britain, Germany, Italy, Russia, Canada, Japan and Cuba. Today, between fifty and one hundred scientific articles are published each month about the chemical and biological effects of ozone and hydrogen peroxide.-

    Between 50 and 100 papers published each month.

     
  • At 2:40 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    So why not cite one of them? Climate Change and Ice Cap health, remember?

    You complained that I cited a paper from the late 90s.

    Oh so little memory....

     
  • At 2:41 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    The rest of your ignorance, fill in the blanks, try some associative thinking for once.

     
  • At 2:59 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Umm Erik, the paper you cited was superseded by more recent data.

    That is what I said.

    Ya see it doesn't matter when a paper was written if there isn't any more recent data that refutes it.

     
  • At 3:01 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    And do your own research Erik.

    I don't care if you believe me or not. There isn't anything you could say to stop me from doing what I am doing- and so far so good.

    I have more energy, my two warts are fading and this is only my third day.

     
  • At 3:04 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Yes Erik YOU should try thinking.

    However seeing that you are brain-dead that may not be possible.

     
  • At 3:39 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    I'm not trying to stop you from doing anything, Joe. Geez. Paranoid a bit?

    My comment didn't say your paper was shit, Joe. I just asked if there was anything more recent. You'd think that in the 16,200 to 32,400 papers published since 1982 there might be some different data and thinking on the issue. That's all.

    You're attributing warts fading to 72 hours of use? Seems that might need a few more trials. While it might be true (and I certainly am not qualified to know, but neither are you), it seems that this treatment might not work on basically the same time scale as aspirin.

     
  • At 5:11 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Of course I am qualified enough to know that my warts are fading.

    And when there is only one change in my activities then I can feel safe that the change is at least partly, if not fully, responsible.

    And seeing that warts are one of the things on the list of cures, who am I to doubt it?

    But anyways there is more recent data. All you have to do is search for it.

    Also there are other products- "Cell Power" and "Cell Food" that also oxygenate your body, but they are far more costly than H2O2 (but not dangerous to handle).

    "PH balancing"- that is another search query for you.

     
  • At 6:38 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    I'm not really all that interested, Joe. I just find it strange that your complaints about other people fall strangely close to your own behavior.

     
  • At 8:12 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I know you are not interested.

    Had you been you would have done your own research.

    But it is nice of you to try to blame me for your ignorance and laziness.

     
  • At 11:23 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    "Hey, Joe. Are you interested in the career of Mack Sennett, the King of Comedy?"

    "No."

    "No? That's just 'caus you're an asshat."

    You see how little sense that makes? Try to fashion your own remarks with that in mind.

     
  • At 12:35 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Good job fuck-head. Just go ahead and answer the question for me.

    Ya see Erik the dickhead, had I went around asking about Mack and you told me where to look for that information and I kept hounding you for you to provide a complete history of his life, and then said "I am not interested", you would have a point.

    IOW had you started a thread on Mack in which I barged in and then refused to listen, as you do on an hourly basis, you would be on to something.

    I provide you with references. And instead of looking at the data you complain about the authors.

    So once again you prove you are a useless Piece of shit.

     
  • At 1:26 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Refuse to listen? Really. I'll recap the thread for you, Joe.

    1. You post on H2O2 therapy preventing several things, including AIDS.

    2. Knowing that H2O2 can be lethal, I ask you how much you're diluting the solution and also ask how this could prevent AIDS.

    Good on me so far.

    3. You answer the dilution question. Good on you. You say that some people allege AIDS is not only prevented but reversed--no backing info. Addressed, but not answered--so so on you.

    4. We agree that oxygen is a toxic substance to anaerobic organisms.

    5. i acknowledge your dilution regimen and say that it is pretty low concentration, but could still be dangerous. Also, if the dilution is so high, I wonder what health benefits could really be expected--especially on the curing AIDS front.

    All new stuff from me so far...

    6. You ask if I have a point. Ignoring on your part now. You then state that cancer can be cured--again with no supporting information.

    7. I ask you for the supporting information.

    8. You give some papers. Good on you.

    9. I check a couple of them out, but not the third one (bad on me). I say that you have merely cited some essays (which you have for the most part). And moreover, these essays are apparently by people who want to sell you something (Dr. Phil types).

    10. You point out that you did, in fact, cite 1 research paper.

    11. I acknowledge my mistake (still listening Joe ol' boy) and read the paper. I bring up the fact that the research is 27 years old.

    12. You throw a hissy about me mentioning that it is old.

    13. I point out that you didn't like that I cited 10 year old papers in a different thread. (You seem not to be able remember it.)

    14. You claim that I have told yo to stop doing something. A falsehood as anyone can see from reading the thread.

    Short look: I said something different with each post and referenced something that you had said in the previous post each time.

    Who isn't listening? Or reading?

     
  • At 1:52 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Umm this thread is about me conducting an experiment on myself.

    I am doing so because of my research into H2O2 and PH balancing (my body).

    In the OP I said This is supposed to help cleanse my body and eliminate and/ or prevent many types of diseases- including cancer and AIDS.-

    SUPPOSED TO- are the key words.

    That said if you do some research you may be able to find the data you are looking for.

    Yes I cited an old paper- one that has NOT been superseded with new data.

    You cited an old paper that has been superseded by new data.

    I told you this- more proof you don't listen.

    Also I never claimed you told me to stop doing something-

    This is what I said:

    I don't care if you believe me or not. There isn't anything you could say to stop me from doing what I am doing- and so far so good.-

    So the bottom line is you refuse to read and refuse to do your own research.

     
  • At 1:54 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Ya see this is MY research.

    I am conducting an experiment and I am the guinea pig.

    I am trying to see if at least some of these claims are true.

    And so far so good.

     
  • At 3:16 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Why would you say that I'm trying to stop you from doing anything, Joe? I'm just asking questions.

    As I recall the papers from the Ice Cap thread, they gave different data, not conflicting data.

    That was the reason I asked you if extent was the only criteria to ice cap health--something you chose to ignore.

     
  • At 3:34 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I didn't say you were trying to stop me from doing something.

    Also there isn't any need to ask me any questions- do your own research.

     
  • At 3:57 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Why post a blog entry?

     
  • At 4:10 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Because I had something to say on a subject many people may find interesting.

    And the people who are interested will do their own research to figure it out for themselves.

    And just for the record my PH, which was below normal on Friday is now normalized.

     
  • At 4:48 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Why have open comments?

     
  • At 4:52 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    In case someone may have something to add.

     
  • At 5:34 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Hmmmm.

     
  • At 5:54 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Are you trying to give me a hum job?

     
  • At 6:43 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Hummer. That's funny. Hum job. Not so much. Still got that comedy class opening for you, Joe.

     
  • At 8:12 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Hummer. That's funny.-

    What's so funny about a gas-guzzling SUV?

    When you lick your boyfriend's anus are you giving him a rimmer or a rim job?

    Just askin'...

     
  • At 4:03 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Still not funny, Joe. You have to structure the sentence in a manner that provides the insult as a secondary interpretation. Try to learn the very basics before performing in front of an audience.

    I'm telling you, the class is free as long as you want to take it. Or, I can recommend a couple classes in your area if you don't want to relocate.

     
  • At 4:20 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I know it isn't funny that you like licking around your boyfriend's anus.

    It is pretty gross if you ask me.

    Do you gargle with Listerine after?

     
  • At 4:27 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    You have to structure the sentence in a manner that provides the insult as a secondary interpretation.-

    What insult?

     
  • At 4:28 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    You still don't get it, do you? The essence of funny is the unexpected. Just say the word, I'll set up classes wherever: KC, New Hampshire, Boston if that'd be an okay trip for you.

    And really, insults are much the same thing--go for the truly personal or personally true stuff. Generic screeds about your own personal distastes aren't really insult worthy.

    Try harder or go to class.

     
  • At 4:50 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    No you don't get it Erik.

    You are not in any position to critique me.

     
  • At 4:56 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Again you mention "insult".

    So again I ask- what insult?

     
  • At 5:07 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Well, I'm assuming all your dick lines are meant to be a deprecating sort of thing directed at me. You'll just have to try harder, Joe. Like jokes, insults and derogatory comments need to have an element of the unexpected if they are to be truly effective.

    Anyway, as a working professional entertainer, I am in a position to critique you in some areas. Think of it as advice, though. I just want you to be the best JoeTard you can be.

     
  • At 5:34 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    1- You are a freakin clown because you can't do anything else. Let alone critique someone else.

    2- What "dick" lines?

    3- I wasn't being insulting I was just asking a question using an EXAMPLE.

     
  • At 8:00 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    Charlie Chaplin. Talented?

     
  • At 9:30 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    It depends on what one calls "talent".

    Could he survive on his own?

    Could he do something useful?

     
  • At 9:46 PM, Blogger blipey said…

    So, I guess you're saying that Chaplin had talent. Though you have no idea what that talent might be.

    What about Berlioz?

     
  • At 10:17 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I take that as a "no" CC didn't have any talent.

    Although he did seem to have a talent for young girls. Is perversion a talent?

    Now get back on topic or fuck off.

     

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