blipey the clueless clown says forensic science is nonsense

According to Erik Pratt, aka blipey the clueless clown, if we cannot tell the design from non-design pertaining to a distributation of leaves on the ground then our design detection methodology isn't any good.

And that means forensic science is junk. SETI is a waste of time and money. Archaeology may as well stop looking for artifacts and fire investigators should just stay home.

Insurance fraud- another waste of time.

What the moron fails to understand is that his position needs to make such a determination!

IOW if his position can't make a determination about the leaves, by blipey's "logic", it is a piece of shit and shouldn't even be considered.

CSI and baseballs- a Repost for blipey the clueless clown

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blipey the clueless clown has challenged me to "calculate" the CSI of a baseball.

What can be done is to "calculate" the amount of information it takes to make one from scratch. And this calculation is nothing more than a counting of the bits that information contains.

Counting appears to be above blipey's capabilities.

So blipey I will count the bits for you if you provide the specifications and assembly instructions. I do not have the time to search for them.

And that goes for anything else- for living organisms provide the genome and all known protein sequences of the organism in question.

One final note- the point of CSI is to know whether or not it is present. Its presence is a signal of intentional design. Getting an exact number, although good for parlor games, may or may not be of any use scientifically.

An EXAMPLE of what blipey needs to provide:

How to make a baseball

"Construction varies. Generally the core of the ball is cork, rubber, or a mixture of the two, and is sometimes layered. Around that are various linear materials including yarn and twine, sometimes wool is used. A leather cover is put on, in two pieces, and stitched together using 108 stitches of waxed red cotton thread. Rolled stitching is flatter and creates less air-resistance. This is the type of stitching used for major league balls and is ideal for the game and everyday play. Official Major League balls sold by Rawlings are made to the exact MLB specifications (5 ounces, 108 stitches) and are stamped with the signature of Commissioner Allan "Bud" Selig on each ball."

The more specifications required the more information required-

First you would need a BOM (bill of materials)

1- a specified core
2- specified material that will be wrapped around the core
3- specified leather cover
4- specified thread

That's just the BOM. Next you would need assembly instructions-

How tightly to wrap the core
Direction of wrapping
How much material to use
The cover would be cut in a specified manner
It would then be sewn in a specified manner.

After the ball is made it would then be tested to see if it meets the specifications- weight, diameter/ circumference and rebound.

All those bits of information, taken together, are what would determine if CSI was present or not. It should be obvious that specified information is present and that CSI just puts a lower limit on the number of bits required.

That is how one measures the amount of information - count the number of bits.


To gather all the data required is a lot of work. As I told Erik Pratt if he did that work I would count the bits. If Erik wants me to do all of the work then he has to pay me. And doing work for assholes is expensive.

SETI and Intelligent Design

- In SETI and Intelligent Design, SETI researcher Seth Shostak wants to assure everyone that the two don’t have anything in common. However it is obvious that Seth doesn’t completely understand ID’s argument, and he misrepresents the anonymous quote he provided. Seth on ID:

The way this happens is as follows. When ID advocates posit that DNA--which is a complicated, molecular blueprint--is solid evidence for a designer, most scientists are unconvinced. They counter that the structure of this biological building block is the result of self-organization via evolution, and not a proof of deliberate engineering. DNA, the researchers will protest, is no more a consciously constructed system than Jupiter's Great Red Spot. Organized complexity, in other words, is not enough to infer design.

Yes specified complexity is used as evidence for design. Not mere complexity and not organized complexity. A hurricane is an example of organized complexity. DNA is an example of specified complexity. Seth on IDists on SETI:

"upon receiving a complex radio signal from space, SETI researchers will claim it as proof that intelligent life resides in the neighborhood of a distant star. Thus, isn't their search completely analogous to our own line of reasoning--a clear case of complexity implying intelligence and deliberate design?" anonymous IDist(s)

(No IDist claims complexity implies intelligence so methinks Seth made it all up) What does Seth say about his made-up quote?:

In fact, the signals actually sought by today's SETI searches are not complex, as the ID advocates assume.- S Shostak

1- All that quote said was about RECEIVING, not searching. 2- And if you did RECEIVE a signal of that nature you would claim it as such 3- By ID’s standards of complexity is related to probability your narrow band meets the complexity criteria

An endless, sinusoidal signal - a dead simple tone - is not complex; it's artificial.- Shostak

Not if we use the word complexity in terms of (im)probability then that sine wave would meet the criteria. However Seth does add some insight:

Such a tone just doesn't seem to be generated by natural astrophysical processes. In addition, and unlike other radio emissions produced by the cosmos, such a signal is devoid of the appendages and inefficiencies nature always seems to add -

Exactly! And if natural astrophysical processes can be found that generate such a tone then you would have to search for something else. Something that natural astrophysical processes cannot account for.

How to Debate like an Evolutionist

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If one wants to debate like an evolutionist here are some rules you must follow:

1- Never, under any circumstances try to support your position. Doing so will only expose weaknesses and holes

2- Always misrepresent your opponent. When they say something twist it into something else and then accuse them of being stupid.

3- Always change the subject.

Dr Behe's irreducible mousetrap

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In "Darwin's Black Box" Dr Behe used a 5 part mousetrap to illustrate irreducible complexity (IC).

What IC is supposed to refute is the premise that non-telic processes can account for it.

So what do the anti-IDists do?

They misrepresent Dr Behe, and set up strawman after strawman in order to "refute" him.

John H. McDonald has provided the evidence that supports my claim:

A reducibly complex mousetrap

If one goes to that site you will notice something missing- no where on that page does it describe how non-telic processes can make the changes required!

IOW McDonald proves that he is a clueless dolt.

Why do anti-IDists think their ignorance is some sort of refutation?

More on H2O2 Therapy and my Experiment

This site doesn't appear to be selling anything. Maybe they are producers of H2O2:
Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy: Supplement to The Art of Getting Well-

From the 2,500 or more references on hydrogen peroxide we have collected and reviewed we have come to appreciate this physiological product as a[n] extremely important molecule in metabolism. Hydrogen peroxide is produced by all cells of the body for many different physiological reasons. The granulocytes produce H2O2 as a first line of defense against bacteria, yeast, virus, parasites, macrophages, and most fungi. It is involved in any metabolic pathway which utilize oxidases, peroxidases, cyclo-oxygenase, lipoxygenase, myeloperoxidase, catalase and probably many other enzymes. Hydrogen peroxide is involved in protein, carbohydrate and fat metabolism, immunity, vitamin and mineral metabolism or any other system you might wish to explore.

The article ends with:

"Manufacturers of products which claim to have the same effect as Hydrogen Peroxide may not have a good understanding of the biochemical role of Hydrogen Peroxide in the body. Some of these products claim to provide more oxygen molecules than Hydrogen Peroxide and that may be true but I know of no scientific evidence to show this enhances oxidative metabolism. Cancer and many other degenerative diseases are thought to be the results of poor cellular oxidative processes. They are not the results of a reduced supply of oxygen. Persons with anemias or severe lung disease may have an oxygen deficit but do not necessarily have a greater incidence of Cancer or chronic diseases. The problem is not the delivery of oxygen to the cells but utilization by the cells. Hydrogen Peroxide affects utilization or oxidation dramatically whereas hyper-oxygenated or chlorinated molecules have not been shown to be necessary in the body to improve oxidative metabolism9."

Many physicians and clinics are effectively using Hydrogen Peroxide intravenously with their patients.

There is a ton of literature favoring Hydrogen Peroxide treatment for various medical conditions10.

We suggest that your study of H2O2 may be an important step in your search for good health. It's worth looking into!

And that is what I am doing- trying to find a way to stay healthy. So far so good, but I have strayed a little from my planned regimen.

I started substituting "Cell Power" for my afternoon dose and skipping my nightly dose- it just boosts my energy level too much. The plan is to get back strictly on H2O2 3 times a day before flu season hits.

My two warts haven't faded away, but I wouldn't expect that in just over two weeks.

I have had an infection that has cleared up- an abscess at the base of a root canal. I hate going to the dentist, so this is good.

Why Evolutionists Hate Intelligent Design

It has become very obvious why evolutionists hate intelligent design (ID):

In order to falsify ID they have to actually substantiate the claims of their position!

Ya see their postion goes over much easier if they only have to present a glossy narrative as opposed to actual scientific data.

No Examples and No Hypothesis for the non-telic position

Every day it is becoming more and more obvious that the only criteria for the anti-ID, ie non-telic, position is just the refusal to accept the design inference at any and all costs.

I say that because no one can provide a testable hypothesis for that position nor have any examples been forthcoming.

Heck I have asked how one can test the premise that the bacterial flagellum evolved via non-telic processes and instead of answering the question the assholes harp on anything and everything ID.

So now one has to wonder how it is that their position is deemed scientific when it can't even meet the standards of science.

Natural Processes Cannot Account for the Origin of Nature

Anti-IDists appear to be living in denial.

They don't seem to understand the basic and simple fact that natural processes only exist in nature and therefor cannot account for its origins.

That means that there position requires something beyond nature.

This is important because they try to discredit ID by incorrectly saying that ID requires the supernatural. They say that because ID requires something beyond nature to design nature. That makes sense. However not everything beyond nature, or before it, has to be supernatural. As I said before the designer, at best, could be labeled pre-natural.

What doesn't make any sense is that there position regresses to the same point yet they do not apply their criteria evenly.

IOW the anti-ID mob is a dishonest lot, which I have known for many, many years.

Why Intelligent Design is Scientific

Why is Intelligent Design Scientific?

1- It is based on observations and experience

2- It can be tested

Which brings us to the question:


How can one test the premise that the bacterial flagellum "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?

ERVs and universal common descent- it doesn't make any sense

Evolutionists claim that the presence of ERVs- that is their presence in the same locus in different populations, such as chimps and humans, proves common ancestry.

Yet in order for that to happen it means that an virus had to infect a gamete, that gamete had to get used to make an offspring, and then that offspring would have to pass down that genetic marker such that it became fixed in the population.

All that while keeping its sequence identity, over thousands and thousands of generations with recombinations and mutations happening all around it.

So the question should be why did the sequence identity remain intact?

The obvious answer is because it does something and most likely isn't a leftover infection.

Another question would be "are ERVs actually decayed versions- ie selfish genes- of a once full genome?"

Think prions which are leftover proteins which go on to infect the organism that ingests them.

IOW these ERVs, in their normal state, are just another regulatory sequence in the genome.

When the organism gets consumed, for example, if the DNA does not get broken down all the way, these selfish genes can then "take over" the new host.

Why do people want to be related to chimps?

OK so why do people want to be related to chimps?

I know what some will say "No one "wants" to be related to chimps. The evidence sez we are."

But once one looks at said "evidence" it becomes more apparent that people want to be related.

Does anyone have an answer?