Intelligent Reasoning

Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the alleged theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the alleged theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Saturday, June 02, 2012

Jerry Coyne- Liar for Evolutionism

When all else fails just lie, right Jerry?

Jerry spews:

And, of course, there are all those transitional forms in the fossil record showing that, despite the IDiots’ objections, new genera, families, and even orders have arisen through natural selection. Here’s one such transformation—the evolution of whales from a terrestrial artiodactyl (even-toed ungulate) ancestor:

Hey dumbass liar- no one can say anything about what was involved just by looking at the fossils.

Jerry also spews his shit about cats and dogs- Jerry no one knows how long it will take, so shut up already.

And yes dogs differ morphologically but they are all the same species. Voles differ genetically but they still look the same.

Genetic engineering and artificial selection do not mean that nature could do it, so your plant examples are moot- also both ID and YEC accept speciation even with all its ambiguity.

Whales? No Jerry, not one geneticist nor developmental biologists knows if a fully terrestrial animal can evolve into a totally aquatic animal- no way to test it.

BTW Jerry YOUR motivation is NOT the honest pursuit of anything- YOU are nothing but a drool-spewing liar.

Is it because you are so fucking ugly that you reject ID and Creation? "No designer would have made me so fucking ugly therefore natural selection"


  • At 2:21 PM, Blogger Unknown said…

    Where's your picture, pretty boy?

    I'm heading out to New England soon for a technology job myself. Care to meet for lunch to talk shop?

    You have my email. Let me know!

  • At 4:37 PM, Blogger Beachscriber said…

    I'm just looking at the way you talk and I'm wondering, are you a Christian?!

  • At 4:41 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Hi Steve Dayton!

    Are you gay? Andf no, I do not have your email but if you just go to Provincetown I am sure someone there will fuck you.

  • At 4:42 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Hi beachscriber! No, I am not a christian. If I was I would most likely take it as my christian duty to rid the world of pathological liars like Coyne.

  • At 4:47 PM, Blogger Beachscriber said…

    Sorry. Jewish? Are you religious at all? I'm inclined to assume that someone who believed ID believes in a Designer with a capital D and I'm just wondering what kind of God a person who talks like that serves.

  • At 4:53 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Nope, not religious at all and the designer doesn't have to be any god.

    Any god that requires service isn't worth it.

  • At 5:17 PM, Blogger Beachscriber said…

    Well, I don't think you've understood what I mean by service, but that doesn't matter. What interests me here is how you've blown an assumption I've always had: that ID-ers see in the way things work, evidence of a Designer / Creator / God. It's also a kind of vested interest for them. I have to say, I'm puzzled and would like to know more about what you believe in this regard. How you get to be so embattled, passionate and even vitriolic about something you have no vested interest in?

    Personally, I'm undecided about ID and I have to say I find the tone of your blog quite off-putting.

  • At 6:10 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    My vested interest is that I want to know the reality behind our existence. I would say that is the vested interest of every IDist and Creationist.

    OTOH Coyne is obvioulsy clueless and has his own vested interest. Personally I find evoTARD liars quite off-putting and will expose them when I can.

  • At 2:54 PM, Blogger Beachscriber said…

    That's not a vested interest. A vested interest is something like a group loyalty or a financial interest - something external to the truth or falsity of the claim.

    I also find it hard to believe you when you say you just want to find out the truth:
    1. You're also clearly on a mission to broadcast your position, which is great, and I'd read your blog more if weren't for all the gall and fish bones.
    2. Everything about the tone of your blog says you have already made up your mind and everyone else is an idiot.
    3. Finding out the truth is a collaborative effort. One relies heavily on the work of others, including the work of people you might disagree with in significant ways. The only reason I can think of that you dismiss them so abusively, calling them idiots or "tards" is that you don't need them in any way and that would be because you have already made your mind up.

    Besides, it's kind of short-sighted. Intellectual enemies are useful to have around for the way they sharpen you up and keep you humble. Jerry Coyne is a determinist and I find his thinking in this regard simplistic and absurd but still, it's fun to engage, no fun to go around trying to rid the earth of him as you put it.

    I think a warning is also in order: the dismissive, offensive way you talk is the kind of thing that leads to serious conflict and even genocide. The hate-speech carries an attitude and we have seen it catch on and run like a bush fire in places like Rwanda and Croatia. Don't think the USA is immune.

    Lastly, what would be the essential difference between a Designer and a Creator / God in your ID model?

  • At 2:58 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Shut up- YOU don't get to tell me what my vested interests can be.

    And I don't care what you find hard to believe- who the fuck are you?

    And yes I was an evolutionist- once I figured out I was lied to all those years this is what I have become.

    I take my cue from Madalyn Murray O'Hare- that atheist butch has nothing on me. I will do for ID what she did for atheism. LoL!

    The essential difference between God and the Designer? No eternal salvation

  • At 3:25 PM, Blogger Beachscriber said…

    I wasn't telling you what your vested interests could or couldn't be I was telling what a vested interest was. You didn't seem to know.

    Who the fuck am I? I am your conscience, and I just left for good.

  • At 4:22 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Please reference your claim of what a "vested interest" is and demonstrate that I cannot have a vested interest in knowledge- correct knowledge.

    Oh never mind, you left for good.

    Thanks for stopping by.


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