What is Materialism?
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Materialism is simply the claim that all we observe- the universe and everything in it- can be explained/ accounted for by matter, energy and what emerges from differing interactions of matter and energy.
Materialists are people who adhere to that doctrine.
However information is neither matter nor energy so materialists claim it emerges from the aforementioned interactions.
Of course all of that is, to date, untestable and therefor beyond the realm of science.
Materialism is simply the claim that all we observe- the universe and everything in it- can be explained/ accounted for by matter, energy and what emerges from differing interactions of matter and energy.
Materialists are people who adhere to that doctrine.
However information is neither matter nor energy so materialists claim it emerges from the aforementioned interactions.
Of course all of that is, to date, untestable and therefor beyond the realm of science.
posted by Joe G @ 1:37 PM
24 Comments:
At 6:25 PM,
Unknown said…
It's 'therefore'.
At 8:53 AM,
Joe G said…
More ignorance- without the ending 'e' is acceptable.
At 6:14 PM,
Zachriel said…
Joe G: More ignorance- without the ending 'e' is acceptable.
That is incorrect. "Therefore" and "therefor" are not just different spellings of the same word, but different words with different meanings.
At 6:42 PM,
Joe G said…
The meanings are very similar and when spoken no one knows which one the speaker is using.
But anyway my usage appears correct:
Of course all of that is, to date, untestable and for that beyond the realm of science.
At 6:49 PM,
Zachriel said…
Joe G: The meanings are very similar and when spoken no one knows which one the speaker is using.
No, they do not have similar meanings. You used the wrong word.
therefore: because of that
therefor: for that
A simple correction is all that is required.
At 6:49 PM,
Zachriel said…
Joe G: Of course all of that is, to date, untestable and {because of that} beyond the realm of science.
At 6:51 PM,
Joe G said…
Oxford doesn't seem to think there is a difference:
Therefore- For that reason; consequently
therefor:
For that object or purpose.
A purpose is a reason.
At 6:54 PM,
Joe G said…
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/therefore
At 6:55 PM,
Zachriel said…
That's right. You're using the word wrong. You mean "because of that", not "for that".
At 7:02 PM,
Joe G said…
Oxford says I am correct. And "fore" means towards the front of the ship/ plane and was used as a time reference. So "therefore" seems like a nonsense word.
OTOH "for" carries the reason/ because of and all of that. Sop "for that" includes "because of" and therefor should be the only way to spell the word.
My usage is correct.
At 7:04 PM,
Zachriel said…
Joe G: So "therefore" seems like a nonsense word.
Therefore is a nonsense word? Heh.
Remain ignorant. Suit yourself.
At 7:10 PM,
Joe G said…
Zachriel can't read so it calls me ignorant. Zachriel is too stupid to realize that "for" and "because" are synonyms, so it calls me ignorant.
You are a little weasel coward, Zachriel.
Zachriel:
No, they do not have similar meanings. You used the wrong word.
therefore: because of that
therefor: for that
"for" and "because" are synonyms and that means the definition are very close to being identical.
At 11:52 AM,
Zachriel said…
http://www.translegal.com/legal-english-lessons/therefore-vs-therefor
At 11:59 AM,
Joe G said…
Keep fishing Zach, you may catch something some day.
To racap Zach sed that the two words do NOT have similar meanings and then Zach produced the definitions which demonstrates that the two words have very similar meanings. And, as a matter of fact, when regressed it appears that the words have the same meaning!
At 12:02 PM,
Zachriel said…
Joe G: And, as a matter of fact, when regressed it appears that the words have the same meaning!
Um, no. But feel free to persist in ignorance.
At 12:11 PM,
Joe G said…
The ignorance is all yours, Zach. And it is amusing to see that you cannot think for yourself.
AGAIN:
Oxford doesn't seem to think there is a difference:
Therefore- For that reason; consequently
therefor:
For that object or purpose.
A purpose is a reason.
At 12:23 PM,
Joe G said…
http://etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=therefor&searchmode=none
therefor (adv.) Look up therefor at Dictionary.com
"for this, for that," Middle English variant spelling of therefore (q.v.); in modern use perhaps perceived as there + for.
Wow therefor is a variant spelling of therefore- well because "for" was once spelled "fore". It no longer is and "therefor" seems to be a better choice for the reasons given above.
At 12:25 PM,
Zachriel said…
From your link:
Since c.1800, therefor has been used in sense of "for that, by reason of that;" and therefore in sense of "in consequence of that."
The distinction between the words is two centuries old.
At 1:28 PM,
Joe G said…
Any and all distinctions are contrived. Not only that said distinctions can easily be covered under the definitions for the word "therefor"l
Also by my reference I used the correct form of the word->
"by reason of that" and "because of that", mean the same thing.
So obviously you are unable to think for yourself, just as I posted.
At 1:59 PM,
Joe G said…
Of course all of that is, to date, untestable and by reason of that beyond the realm of science.
At 8:41 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
Poor old chubs, still can't admit he's wrong. Priceless.
At 9:11 AM,
Joe G said…
Strange that I just proved my usage is correct.
Poor old Richie, still too much of a coward to actually try to make a case.
At 10:33 AM,
Rich Hughes said…
Fatty gets pointed to two hundred years of historical usage, says its 'contrived'. Poor cupcake!
At 10:44 AM,
Joe G said…
LoL! I pointed to 200 years of usage and it proved my usage is correct.
As for being contrived, well I actually made a case for that too.
Richie Hughes, proud to be an ignorant assface...
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