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Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the alleged theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the alleged theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Sunday, June 01, 2014

If Science Looks for Parsimonious Answers... HT RichTARD Hughes

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If science looks for parsimonious answers then materialism and its bastard child evolutionism, lose. They lose because their "answers" are innumerable improbable coincidences, and that is as far from parsimonious as it gets. And it even goes against common sense.

One coordinated design is by far more parsimonious than innumerable improbable coincidences. But I doubt Richie will ever admit that because he is too stupid to understand it.

posted by Joe G @ 11:14 AM  

58 Comments:

  • At 1:13 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Oh my goodness Chubs, you are the queen of fail.

    When you invoke the designer whole cloth you must explain it.

    Also, per ID, the designer will be complex and specified so too will require explanation.

    Each recursive generation has a higher design capability so requires more description.

    This is simply creationist's (like Joe Fatty Gallien's) reboot of "God did it", and boy is it obvious.

     

  • At 2:42 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    We invoke a designer because of the evidence. And if your position had something other than innumerable improbable coincidences we most likely wouldn't be having this discussion. If your position had something scientifically testable we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    IOW RichTARD, it is obvious that you are the queen of fail.

    When you invoke the designer whole cloth you must explain it.

    Cuz Richie the scientifically illiterate ass sez so.

    Also, per ID, the designer will be complex and specified so too will require explanation.

    Cuz Richie the scientifically illiterate ass sez so.

    Archaeology, by Richie's logic, is a reboot of "the designer didit". Forensic science is a reboot of "the designer didit".

    Cause and effect relationships, Richie- you know, the stuff of science- oops you don't know.

    IOW Richie's "response" is simply evoTARD's (like assface RichTARD Hughes) reboot of "I like turtles".

     

  • At 3:13 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    1. You have invoked a designer whole cloth, Chubs. We know of no intelligent capability that existed in those times unless you want to offer evidence and support.

    2. An explanation that requires more enplaning than the problem it tries to address is clearly not parsimonious


    3. Archaeology and forensic science deals with entities we know that exist and can describe, along with capabilities. ID (Creationism) not so.

    We know people can create highly complex things. There's your cause and effect, fat boy.

    And as you throw monikers that should be reserved for yourself let's remember your choo choo math fail, your stars needed to stop the earth falling into the sun fail and numerous biology fails. Oh - and being voted last fail.

    You chickenshit chubby fail queen.

    Have a great one.

     

  • At 3:33 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    . You have invoked a designer whole cloth

    Only an ignorant ass would say that.

    We know of no intelligent capability that existed in those times unless you want to offer evidence and support.

    We know of no materialistic process capable of producing what we observe. The evidence for an intelligence capable is all around us.

    . An explanation that requires more enplaning than the problem it tries to address is clearly not parsimonious

    That is materialism in a nutshell. It can't explain anything.

    Archaeology and forensic science deals with entities we know that exist and can describe, along with capabilities.

    Imbecile- we cannot test the capability of peoples who lived thousands of years ago.

    We know people can create highly complex things.

    Nature creates highly complex things too, moron. Highly complex is not an indication of design you ignorant fuck.

    And as you throw monikers that should be reserved for yourself let's remember your choo choo math fail,

    Your ignorance does not mean we failed, asshole.

    your stars needed to stop the earth falling into the sun fail and numerous biology fails.

    And more unsupported ignorant spewage. And still no evidence to support your position. Why is that?

    So here we are and Richie still cannot present any evidence for his position. Very telling, that. OTOH I have provided positive evidence for ID along with the methodology used to determine design. Richie can't do the same for materialism and evolutionism.

    That is because he is an ignorant coward faggot and a brainfart fail.

     

  • At 3:41 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    1. You fail to support your argument chubs. Repeatedly.

    2. People lived thousands of years ago. We know the capabilities of people. Imbecile.

    3. Looks like you need an empirical measure for design than fatty. Go and count the letters in the recipe again...

    4.You've provided nothing but hand-waving and naked assertion. Your fail is a big as your waistline, your bad reasonings as numerous as your chins.

    Obviously, like most things, the subject matter is too difficult for an intellectual child like you.

    Ever wonder why no-one links back to or uses your arguments?

    It's because they're shit, you fat idiot.

    Any tard can get posting rights at UD - (even slimey sal FFS) but not Chubby-Fail-Gallien.

    How pathetic is that?


     

  • At 3:53 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    You fail to support your argument

    Liar and projectionist.

    People lived thousands of years ago. We know the capabilities of people.

    Nice try dickface. We do NOT and cannot know the capabilities of the peoples who lived thousands of years ago. That is just a fact.

    Looks like you need an empirical measure for design

    We have one. OTOH your position doesn't have anything empirical.

    You've provided nothing but hand-waving and naked assertion

    Liar and projectionist.

    Obviously, like most things, the subject matter is too difficult for an intellectual child like you.

    And more projection.

    Ever wonder why no-one links back to or uses your arguments?

    They do, Richie. OTOH you are still an ignorant little faggot.

    Any tard can get posting rights at UD

    Except you. I had a post on UD and will post more. OTOH you will never have that ability.

    Little Richie Hughes, ignorant fagboy- no argument, nothing to say and very upset at all of that.

    So here we are and Richie still cannot present any evidence for his position. Very telling, that. OTOH I have provided positive evidence for ID along with the methodology used to determine design. Richie can't do the same for materialism and evolutionism.

    That is because he is an ignorant coward faggot and a brainfart fail.

     

  • At 3:55 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie dumdfuck:
    People lived thousands of years ago. We know the capabilities of people.

    So the peoples of thousands of years ago had the capability of producing jet engines and space shuttles or is Richie just an ignorant fuckhead?

     

  • At 4:01 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Liar and projectionist.'

    Bwahahahaha!

    this from Chubby Joe who's been caught (because he's a fat idiot) changing his blog to support his lies. Also caught pretending to be different people. Such a sad fatty!

    THAT'S THE FACTS, CHUBS.

     

  • At 4:06 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "I had a post on UD and will post more"

    Except it says

    "Posted by kairosfocus"

    Your boyfriend and corrector. (its obvious he's dominant in your relationship, the way he keeps correcting you)

     

  • At 4:06 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    We know the capabilities of people through history, Joe.

    Fat Idiot.

     

  • At 4:12 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Also caught pretending to be different people

    Caught by who?

    Attacking me with your lies will not support materialism.

    Except it says

    "Posted by kairosfocus"

    It is still my post, dumbass.

    We know the capabilities of people through history, Joe.

    We may think we do, but we will never be able to test what we think.

    So nothing to support the claim that materialism is more parsimonious. That is what I thought.

     

  • At 4:13 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Little Richie Hughes, ignorant fagboy- no argument, nothing to say and very upset at all of that.

    So here we are and Richie still cannot present any evidence for his position. Very telling, that. OTOH I have provided positive evidence for ID along with the methodology used to determine design. Richie can't do the same for materialism and evolutionism.

    That is because he is an ignorant coward faggot and a brainfart fail.

     

  • At 4:14 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Also caught pretending to be different people.

    I would love to see that evidence. I am sure it will all be hearsay

     

  • At 4:15 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Caught by OlegT, Fat idiot.


    Whoops wrong log in!

    So when you throw 'Liar" around - remember its you.

     

  • At 4:33 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    This is still the best advice you'll get, Chubs:

    http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=6647;st=2340#entry187632

     

  • At 4:34 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    OOps- RichTARD asswipe sed it was KF's post even though any educated person could tell it was my post.

    IOW Richie is an asshole liar.

    Then he sez OlegT caught me but as I said it is all hearsay- notice no evidence was provided.

    OTOH Richie lies with almost every post. Every post in which Richie attacks ID is a lie. Every post he supports evolutionism and materialism is a lie.

    So when I throw liar around I know it is evoTARDs who live on lies.

     

  • At 4:49 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    LoL! There isn't anything on that circle-jerk forum worth my time. But I am sure that an imbecile like yourself thinks it is good advice. You should heed it.

    But nice to see that you are still too ignorant and/ or stupid to support your position.

     

  • At 4:52 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Posted by kairosfocus"

    Idiot.

    Watching you lie about Frisbee_Kid here is fun:

    http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2011/04/david-kellogg-still-choking-on-big-one.html

    Fat loser.

     

  • At 5:05 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    It is my post you fucking moron. It even says so in the post. kairosfocus isn't a guest so why would he have a guest post?

    It's as if you are just a fucking moron.

    “Intelligent Design is NOT Anti-Evolution” — a guest post

    Keep lying.

    And please present evidence of the lie.

     

  • At 5:10 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Posted by kairosfocus"

    Idiot.


    But feel free to post something as you have posting privileges. ;)

     

  • At 5:10 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Watching Richie flail about wrt science is fun. Face it Richie, when it comes to science and math you are way out of your league. Perhaps being a wanker is all you can be.

     

  • At 5:11 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "Posted by kairosfocus"

    It is still my post, asswipe.

     

  • At 5:17 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    One coordinated design is by far more parsimonious than innumerable improbable coincidences. But I doubt Richie will ever admit that because he is too stupid to understand it.

    As I said...

     

  • At 5:32 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Not if you must postulate an unknown designer more fabulous than than the phenomena under investigation, Chubby Tard.

     

  • At 5:37 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Not if you must postulate an unknown designer more fabulous than than the phenomena under investigation,

    YOU must postulate unknown mechanisms more fabulous than than the phenomena under investigation.

    So fuck you tardboy.

     

  • At 5:57 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Unlike ID, Evolution is a mechanistic theory. That's Dembski, not ID nobody Chubby Joe G.

    So you lose before you even begin, Fatty Tard.

     

  • At 7:25 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Unlike ID, Evolution is a mechanistic theory.

    Evolutionism doesn't have any mechanisms up to the task. Evolutionism does not explain the origin of life. Evolutionism doesn't explain this solar system. Evolutionism doesn't explain the universe. IOW Richie proves that he is a TARDFAIL.

    BTW I never said nor implied ID was a mechanistic theory. Richie is a moron.

    YOU must postulate unknown mechanisms more fabulous than the phenomena under investigation.

    RichTARD's non-sequitur, while amusing, responds to nothing.

     

  • At 8:14 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    The fact you're too stupid to understand it does not make it a non-sequitur, Joe. It only reaffirms along with " your choo choo math fail, your stars needed to stop the earth falling into the sun fail and numerous biology fails. Oh - and being voted last fail" that you're not very bright.

    Please, be careful when you're fixing fridges and toasters.

     

  • At 8:26 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie, dumbass, it's a non-sequitur because it doesn't respond to anything I posted.

    That means I understand what you posted and it isn't a response to the post your were responding to.

    I posted:

    YOU must postulate unknown mechanisms more fabulous than the phenomena under investigation.

    So fuck you tardboy
    You sed:

    Unlike ID, Evolution is a mechanistic theory.

    So what? What was that in response to?

    YOU must postulate unknown mechanisms more fabulous than the phenomena under investigation.

    I like turtles

    Richie the wanker Hughes, full of shit and proud of it.

     

  • At 8:28 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    We will add "non-sequitur" to the long list of words and phrases Richie the wanker Hughes is ignorant of.

     

  • At 8:29 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Evolutionism doesn't have any mechanisms up to the task. Evolutionism does not explain the origin of life. Evolutionism doesn't explain this solar system. Evolutionism doesn't explain the universe. IOW Richie proves that he is a TARDFAIL.

    BTW I never said nor implied ID was a mechanistic theory. Richie is a moron.

     

  • At 8:46 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Same old Joe, creating phrases that people haven't actually said. Big fat creationist tard.

    It's going to be a genuinely sad day when your daughters discover your internet ramblings and are disgusted with the small, pathetic, petty father that they have.

    If they read this, Girls, it's not your fault and you can be grow up to be so much better than him.

     

  • At 8:52 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    LoL! Richie tardbait gets caught posting an asinine non-sequitur and tries to turn it around on me.

    Richie tardbait, asshole loser of the year

     

  • At 8:55 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Again, Chubs, the fact you don't understand doesn't make it an non-sequitur.

    And lets be honest, your history of 'understanding' is abysmal.

     

  • At 9:41 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie, you are an asshole faggot. You couldn't explain how your "response" actually has something top do with what you were responding to if your punk ass depended on it.

    And I can live with that.

     

  • At 9:47 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    And more homophobia from Chubs.

    Your daughters will be so dissapointed with you when they find this. If their classmates find it first then they will be mocked. And its your fault.

    Your designer is more fabulous than that which you wish to explain. Its simple.. for everyone but you, Fatty.

     

  • At 9:52 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Add "homophobia" to the long list of words Richie the wanker is ignorant of.

    At least Richie now admits to his asinine non-sequitur.

    Your designer is more fabulous than that which you wish to explain

    So what? The designers of Stonehenge were more fabulous than Stonehenge. AND your unknown mechanisms are more fabulous than that you wish to explain.

    It is very simple, indeed.



     

  • At 9:56 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Faggot is a homophobic term you brandish freely. You are a pathetic bigot.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faggot

    We know who built Stonehenge, we've found their tools and village.

    Your designer is invoked whole cloth

    JOEFAIL.

     

  • At 10:06 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie, I told you that I do not use the word faggot in that way. Obviously you are too much of a dickhead to understand that.

    We know who built Stonehenge,

    Wrong.

    we've found their tools and village.

    We found tools and a village but no tools for cutting stone, no tools for transporting the stones and no tools for putting the stones in place. IOW nothing to do with Stonehenge.

    Your designer is invoked whole cloth

    Wrong again. The designer is invoked because of the evidence and your position's FAILure to explain it.

    So suck assholes puke face.

     

  • At 10:12 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Words have common meanings Joe. I know you like to fuck everything up with your own idiotic spin but if you must create "Joe talk" then pick unused words for fucking numbskull.

    Of course the simpler explanation is you're lying, like always, again, Fatty.

    Your designer is invoked whole cloth. You're unable to show otherwise.

    let's say we didn't have an explanation for thunder - by your idiocy you'd be warranted in invoking "thundermaker". Such a Tard.

    And work on your insults. They're just puerile. Not funny nor insulting.

     

  • At 10:13 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    AND your unknown mechanisms are more fabulous than that you wish to explain.

    It is very simple, indeed.

     

  • At 10:19 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Words have common meanings Joe

    And some words have uncommon meanings, tardfuck. And I have already supported my use of the word "faggot". Again your ignorance means nothing here.

    Your designer is invoked whole cloth

    And yet we have provided plenty of evidence for one. OTOH your position has absolutely NOTHING.

    let's say we didn't have an explanation for thunder - by your idiocy you'd be warranted in invoking "thundermaker".

    Nope, that has nothing to do with anything I have claimed. You are just a dishonest bitch.

     

  • At 10:19 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    No they're not. Mutation mechanisms are easy to explain, for example. An entity with the skills and knowledge to design life at that early stage in the Universe's history (forget you're a YEC for a second) clearly is.

    You don't understand parsimony. That shouldn't be a surprise given your history of getting most things wrong.

    Unlucky Fatty.

    But I guess as you get to make your own words and meanings up, its a waste of time for anyone to try and educate you.

     

  • At 10:21 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    No, that's exactly analgous to the argument you offered. I'm sorry your argument sucked, but hey, it is one of yours.

    Please link to how you use "faggot", you tragic bigot.

    And also the "plenty of evidence for" the designer.

    You won't.

     

  • At 10:23 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Mutation mechanisms are easy to explain, for example

    Total asshole. Mutation mechanisms do not explain the origin of life, the solar system nor the universe. They can't even explain the diversity of life.

    Your position sez they just happen.

    You lose, moron as you don't even have any mechanisms that can explain anything. You don't even know how to tell if mutations are a mechanism that you can use. Meaning you have no idea if mutations are materialistic in nature.

    Dumbass.

     

  • At 10:27 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Joefail:

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIIC3Causes.shtml

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIIC1aRandom.shtml


    Lenski, etc.

    As for cosmological evolution we have models for somethings and don't know others. No evidence at all for a designer, though.

     

  • At 10:29 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    No, that's exactly analgous to the argument you offered.

    No, it isn't and you can't make a case that it is.

    Please link to how you use "faggot",

    Do you think it will be different from the last time I linked to it for you?

    And also the "plenty of evidence for" the designer.

    Just search my blog, loser.

     

  • At 10:31 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Never play poker. They'll have your money in no time.

    Crap bluff, Fatty.

    My "you won't" prediction fulfilled.

     

  • At 10:34 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIIC3Causes.shtml

    Yes, that is the propaganda. But all you are doing is proving my point- innumerable improbable coincidences.

    Lenski? His experiments prove that you don't have any mechanisms that are capable of producing the diversity of life. You are a moron for even bringing him up.

    And there aren't any cosmological models that use unguided processes. Your lame position can't even explain the fundamental forces. You are totally self-unaware.

     

  • At 10:36 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    LOL@Chubsfail:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

     

  • At 10:39 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    As predicted Richie chokes on reality. What a fucking little coward you are.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=faggot


    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=urban%20dictionary%20faggot

     

  • At 10:41 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Only little cowards post blank links without explaining how it has anything to do with the discussion. Yes I know of the big bang. Yes I also know that your position explains the fundamental forces by saying "they just are (the way they are)" which is total loser bullshit.

    It's as if Richie is just unaware of anything.

     

  • At 10:42 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Urban dictionary?

    Wow.

    Joe G, finding new ways to fail every day.

     

  • At 10:44 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Joe: Posts blank links

    Joe: (next post)

    "Only little cowards post blank links without explaining how it has anything to do with the discussion"

    Previous Joe post:

    "You are totally self-unaware."

    You are the chubby queen of fail.


     

  • At 10:45 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Yes Richie, urban dictionary. Don't blame me because you are a naïve little faggot who hides behind his mommy and never gets out

     

  • At 10:46 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie, YOU asked for links, asshole

     

  • At 10:46 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    And there goes Joe just making shit up again.

    Enjoy, Fatty:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=intelligent+design

     

  • At 10:48 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Here's Richie with its cowardly false accusations, again

     

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