The Dawkins' Delusion
Richard Dawkins- Science by decree and a strawman or two thrown in:
I wanted to give ID its best shot, however poor that best shot might be. I must have been feeling magnanimous that day, because I was aware that the leading advocates of Intelligent Design are very fond of protesting that they are not talking about God as the designer, but about some unnamed and unspecified intelligence, which might even be an alien from another planet. Indeed, this is the only way they differentiate themselves from fundamentalist creationists, and they do it only when they need to, in order to weasel their way around church/state separation laws.- Dawkins
Earth to Dick- Science can be neither legislated nor adjudicated. And if applied equally your atheistic position would also be out as it too violates church/ State laws.
Also ID doesn’t care who or what the designer is. If it is "God" then your point is moot as science only cares about reality.
BTW Creation doesn’t allow for universal common descent. ID doesn’t say.
So, bending over backwards to accommodate the IDiots ("oh NOOOOO, of course we aren't talking about God, this is SCIENCE") and bending over backwards to make the best case I could for intelligent design, I constructed a science fiction scenario.
Which is what you are good at- constructing science fiction scenarios and passing them off as science. As if your position of happy accidents can muster experimental scrutiny. THAT is what you should be working on as opposed to making unsubstantiated decrees.
The conclusion I was heading towards was that, even in the highly unlikely event that some such 'Directed Panspermia' was responsible for designing life on this planet, the alien beings would THEMSELVES have to have evolved, if not by Darwinian selection, by some equivalent 'crane' (to quote Dan Dennett).
And why is that? How can we tellone way or another if we cannot study those aliens? Oh yeah, science by decree.
My point here was that design can never be an ULTIMATE explanation for organized complexity.
Because why? And BTW science doesn't do "ultimate explanations".
Even if life on Earth was seeded by intelligent designers on another planet, and even if the alien life form was itself seeded four billion years earlier, the regress must ultimately be terminated (and we have only some 13 billion years to play with because of the finite age of the universe). Organized complexity cannot just spontaneously happen. That, for goodness sake, is the creationists' whole point, when they bang on about eyes and bacterial flagella!
Strawman alert! No Creationist organization holds the position that organized complexity just spontaneously happens. The automobile didn’t spontaneously happen. Neither did your home PC.
In the Creation model "God" supplies the organized complexity. Duh.
Evolution by natural selection is the only known process whereby organized complexity can ultimately come into being.
But pre-biotic natural selection is a contradiction in terms.
And btw evolution by natural selection has NEVER been demonstrated to do anything besides slightly altering existing populations. And even then those variations wobble around the norm.
Organized complexity -- and that includes everything capable of designing anything intelligently -- comes LATE into the universe. It cannot exist at the beginning, as I have explained again and again in my writings.
The Great Dick has spoken! Science by decree!!!!
Explanations are worthless without the data to substantiate them.