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Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the alleged theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the alleged theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Tuesday, April 06, 2021

Why Natural Selection Requires Chance Mutations

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Natural selection requires the mutations to be chance events for the mere fact that NS is blind and mindless. Telic processes are not part of blind and mindless processes. Telic processes have a goal and purpose. They are the opposite of blind and mindless. 

Evos are too stupid to grasp that.

posted by Joe G @ 9:43 AM  

6 Comments:

  • At 4:28 AM, Blogger JV said…

    What about breeding programs which take what comes of random (with repspect to fitness) mutations and makes intelligent choices about which characteristics are allowed to continue? Is that not a combination of unguided and guided processes?

     

  • At 9:00 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Holy shit you are clueless. First, random with respect to fitness is total bullshit. The evolutionary claim is that mutations are random, as in chance events. It has NOTHING to do with fitness.

    Second no one has determined that all mutations are chance events so all you are doing is engaging in question-begging.

    And finally artificial selection is NOT like natural selection. Mayr discussed the difference in "What Evolution Is".

     

  • At 7:02 AM, Blogger JV said…

    First, random with respect to fitness is total bullshit. The evolutionary claim is that mutations are random, as in chance events. It has NOTHING to do with fitness.

    So you don't understand the meaning of the phrase.

    Second no one has determined that all mutations are chance events so all you are doing is engaging in question-begging.

    So, you haven't read the research backing up this.

    And finally artificial selection is NOT like natural selection.

    Breeding programmes pick from the variation they see. That variation comes from mutations that are random with respect to fitness. So, breeding programmes are a combination of random variation along with intelligent guidance/selection.

     

  • At 8:37 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    The phrase is meaningless bullshit. Grow up. There isn't any research that shows that all mutations are chance events. You are lying.

    You are question-begging and ignorant of biology. Good luck with that.

     

  • At 9:52 AM, Blogger JV said…

    The phrase is meaningless bullshit. Grow up. There isn't any research that shows that all mutations are chance events. You are lying.

    Why do you think most of them are deleterious?

    How can you tell which mutations are not chance events? If you observe one can you specify: yup, that one was directed/planned/programmed?

     

  • At 7:22 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Most mutations are neutral, Your ignorance of biology, while amusing, still is not an argument.

    Read "Not By Chance" it only came out in 1997. Willful ignorance is not good in a debate, either.

    The ONLT way anyone can say that all mutations are chance events is if life arose via blind and mindless processes. And seeing that blind and mindless processes are incapable of producing a biologically relevant replicator, you have less than zero evidence for that.

     

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