A Lesson in Stupidity From KeithS
What a total dipshit this asshole is. Keiths has a "challenge for me:
1. Take any set A of integers. A has a cardinality. Leave A alone for five minutes without adding or removing any elements. Has A’s cardinality changed?
No
2. Take any set B of integers. B has a cardinality. Add 1 to each of the elements of B without adding or removing any elements. Has B’s cardinality changed?Impossible.
3. Take any set C of integers. C has a cardinality. Multiply each element of C by 17 without adding or removing any elements. Has C’s cardinality changed?
Impossible
4. Take the set {0,1,2,3,…}. It has a cardinality. Add 1 to each of its elements without adding or removing any elements. You’ll obtain {1,2,3,4,…}. Has the cardinality changed?Yes.
5. Take the set {0,1,2,3,…}. It has a cardinality. Multiply each element by 17 without adding or removing any elements. You’ll obtain {0,17,34,51,…}. Has the cardinality changed?Yes
6. Flounder about uselessly, trying to explain why your method says that the cardinality changes in scenarios 4 and 5.
You stupid fuck I have already explained it. And there wasn't any floudering about uselessly, except by you and your ilk.
Then keiths sez:
Umm, Joe — you haven’t specified the speed of each train, or whether it’s constant, or the distance between “markers” on each number line, and whether it’s constant, so you can’t conclude that Einstein 1′s count is greater than Einstein 2′s at any particular point in time.
Dumbass, I am tryin g to make everything equal. Equal starting points wrt the 0 reference, same speeds and obvioulsy the markers would be mirror images on both number lines.
However, let’s give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that the trains always travel at the same finite speed and that the distance between markers on Einstein 2′s number line is constant and twice that of Einstein 1′s. Then Einstein 1 will accumulate marks twice as fast as Einstein 2.OK
Here’s where you screw up: you assume that infinity is just a really big finite number, and that if Einstein 1 has accumulated more marks at every finite point in time, then he will also have more marks “at infinity”. But infinity is not a point, Joe. The Einsteins, traveling at finite speed, will never reach infinity.
Nope. I never made such an assumption and you are a fucking asshole for making unwarranted assumptions about what I think. I know they will never reach infinity. However they will be accumulating things for their sets along the way. Einstein 1 will be collecting twice as many as Einstein 2- FOREVER, dumbass.
Get it through your head, Joe: infinity is not just a big finite number. It is fundamentally, qualitatively different. It violates some of our intuitions.YOU violate infinity with your very finite mind.
You are clinging to an intuition that has been shown to be wrong. It’s time to take the next step toward intellectual maturity and let go.
Fuck you. No one has shown me to be wrong. Heck you are so fucking stupid taht you can't even grasp my simple concept.
KeithS, dipshit of the year, and it's only May...