Of Cetaceans, hands, feet and convergence

Zachriel has posted the claim that cetaceans have hands. I have questioned that claim, and for a very good reason. Not one of the alleged ancestors had hands!

However hands could (on a cetacean) develop via convergence. Ooops but that would be a point for me so we know Zachriel will deny it. So then he would have to deny that cetaceans have hands.

Then we have cetaceans with feet. I guess it they were hooved feet one would make the connection to its alleged land ancestors. And what is it that allowed everything else to get bigger, but the hindlimbs all but disappear?

As for the new dolphin find- dolphins do have information for fins. A mutation occurred that copied that existing information and placed those fins on another section of the body. We have seen this sort of thing with fruit flies- extra wings and legs out-of-place.

From living organisms we know, because we observe, that similarity in bone structure can in reality lead to very different forms once the rest of the structure is represented. Therefore any represenation of an organism in which only fossilized bone is present, which appears to go against that norm, should be taken for what it is- a biased opinion.

And to top it all off I again offer the following which I would say that convergnce is musch more common than Zachriel and his ilk will admit:

Unified physics theory explains animals' running, flying and swimming

The findings may have implications for understanding animal evolution, Marden said. One view of evolution holds that it is not a purely deterministic process; that history is full of chance and historical contingency. It is the idea purported by Steven Jay Gould and others that if you were to "rewind the tape" and run it again, evolution would proceed down a different path, Marden said.

"Our finding that animal locomotion adheres to constructal theory tells us that -- even though you couldn't predict exactly what animals would look like if you started evolution over on earth, or it happened on another planet -- with a given gravity and density of their tissues, the same basic patterns of their design would evolve again," Marden said.