Intelligent Reasoning

Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the alleged theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the alleged theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Thursday, November 29, 2012

The NCSE is Totally Clueless

The NCSE has written a blurb about Montana because apparently there is a bill that may have ID taught in their public schools. However the NCSE proves it is run by clueless dolts with the following entry:
As such, the bill would presumably conflict with the decision in the 2005 case Kitzmiller v. Dover, in which requiring the public schools to teach "intelligent design" was held to be unconstitutional.
Exuse me, morons, but that decision pertains to that school district only and has no weight outside of that smal, insignificant school district. It means nothing to Montana. Heck it means nothing to the rest of Pennsylvania. So why are evolutionists so freaking stupid that they do not understand the basic facts about how the Law works? And why don't they realize tat by their own "logic" the teaching of unguided evolution is unconstitutional?


  • At 2:34 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Wah wah wah Doughboy. Ask for equal time for your pyramid woo-woo.

  • At 2:42 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Typical cowardly spewage- can't face the facts so try to change the subject.

    And again there is more evidence pertaining to the pyramids than there is for your position. I understand that bothers you but it ain't my fault.

  • At 2:47 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Wooo wooo tinfoil hat. Joe thinks 'thudrecats' is a science show.

  • At 5:10 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Moooo mooo, asshat. Rich thinks his mother is a sperm bank so he makes daily deposits.

  • At 1:00 PM, Blogger Jeffrey Helix said…

    To be honest, I don't think the Montana bill is a good idea because it politicizes ID:

    And yes, I agree the Dover case was extremely flawed. Especially the fact that the Foundation for Thought and Ethics was denied due process and couldn't explain what the early drafts from Of Pandas and People actually said.

    Nonetheless, I'm glad to see another active ID blog and I hope you keep it up!

  • At 1:04 PM, Blogger Jeffrey Helix said…

    I think the bill should be dropped in accordance with the Discovery Institute's own policy:

    Bills like this turn ID into a political issue which is nothing to be hopeful for.

    But I also agree that the Dover case was very flawed at best. In particular it was wrong to deny due process to The Foundation for Thought and Ethics after they faced a subpoena.

    Glad to see another active ID blog!

  • At 1:18 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I agree Jeffrey- who would teach ID- who is trained?

    The bill I would like to see is one taht just exposes Darwin's strawmen- no one argues for the fixity of species and natural selection is not a designer mimic.

  • At 2:42 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    You are trained, Joe. You have done an awareness day! Put your name forward, Just don't mention your love of pyramidology, baraminology, ticks eating watermelons, dragonflies playing, ice not being water, etc etc.

  • At 3:03 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I don't live in Montana. But I am sure people in Montana know that there is more evidence for pyramid power, baraminology, dragon flies playing, and especially ice not being water, than there is for evolutionism.

    I bet when they go ICE fishing they can see the difference between ICE and water.

    No one drills holes in water to get to the fish swimming in the water- well maybe you and your fellow tards do...

  • At 3:05 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Its a shame you always chicken out. You could help them. They probably have food you'd like.

  • At 3:18 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    No, it's a shame that you are considered to be a human.

    Now go drill a hole in the water, moron.

  • At 3:25 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Wah wah fatty. typical internet coward.

  • At 3:41 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Nice projection.

    Hey Richie- your mother is calling. It must be time for a deposit

  • At 5:20 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    LOL@YEC Joe. Come out of the closet!

  • At 6:20 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Mike Elzinga on November 30, 2012 at 11:03 pm said:

    It is fairly easy, using only high school level physics, to debunk the Flood narrative.

    Mt. Everest is 8848 meters high. The mass of water needed to cover the entire Earth to that depth is 4.5 x 1021 kg.

    If all that water came down from outer space, it would have to start out in the form of ice. The change in potential energy of all that ice raining down on the Earth works out to be 2.8 x 1029 joules.

    If it came down evenly over the entire surface of the Earth during a period of 40 days, that is equivalent to 383 megatons of TNT going off every second for each and every square meter of the Earth’s surface; and that includes the surface of the Ark as well.

    On the other hand, if the water came up from inside the Earth’s lithosphere, it would have to have come from depths considerably greater than 8848 meters. The depths from which it came would be at temperatures of at least 250 degrees Celsius, and up to over 1000 degrees Celsius if the water was in contact with the Earth’s mantle. This would result in superheated steam boiling up out of the earth to release its heat and condense into a liquid that covered the entire Earth. Where did all that heat go?

    How did the Ark survive either of those scenarios?

    This is how we know that the vast majority of the followers of ID/creationism don’t have even a high school level of understanding of science. They cannot grasp the implications of such a simple calculation. Not one of them can even begin the calculation let alone understand it. Just watch them try to word-game it away without ever doing the calculation.

  • At 6:46 PM, Blogger Joe G said…


    There wasn't any Mt Everest before the flood you moron. All of the mountains and ocean basiins were created during the flood year.

    And if the earth was smooth- ie no mountains and no ocean basins, there is enough water to cover the entire planet to some 9000 meters.

    IOW Elzinga is a fucking ignorant asshole.

  • At 7:04 PM, Blogger Joe G said…


    There is a better chance that you are a child molester than I am a YEC.

    Just because I understand what they say, ie I am not as fucking ignorant as you are, doesn't mean I agree with them.

    IOW you do not have a "I get to lie about YECs without getting my ignorance handed to me" card.

    Grow up you little faggot

  • At 7:07 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "There wasn't any Mt Everest before the flood you moron. All of the mountains and ocean basiins were created during the flood year.

    Yes, because that's what floods do - create mountains.

    You are a special tard.

  • At 7:11 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Don't be bitter because science (via Mike) slapped your YEC bullshit down, fatty.

  • At 7:30 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Why would I be bitter over Elzinga's attacking a strawman?

  • At 7:32 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "There wasn't any Mt Everest before the flood you moron. All of the mountains and ocean basiins were created during the flood year.

    Yes, because that's what floods do - create mountains.

    It was more than just a flood you ignorant fuck. Do you really think your ignorance is some sort of refutation? Really?

  • At 7:48 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Sorry - flood + "God magic" creates mountains. My Bad.

  • At 8:04 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Joe, Mike offered lots of analysis based on physics. You've offered... a story from the bible.

    but ID isn't religious.

  • At 9:06 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie, dumbass- YOU brought the Ark story into this you ignorant fuck.

    And Mike thinks that water can melt so I don't trust his physics- oh and he's a materialist, which m,eans he doesn't know anything about science.

    And the Ark story doesn't have anything to do with ID you ignorant fuck.

    Keep trying...

  • At 1:37 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    Wait. I thought the ark story was history! As such it should be fair game for analysis. Where did all that heat go, Joe?

  • At 10:30 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Wait. I thought evolutionism was history! As such it should be fair game for analysis. How many mutations did it take to get an upright biped from a knuckle-walker/ quadraped, Erik? Please show your work.

  • At 2:08 AM, Blogger blipey said…

    No thanks. We're at your junk pile, Joe. No work showing allowed here; you know that.istomof 6528

  • At 8:00 AM, Blogger Joe G said…


    I get it-> you are just another piece-of-shit coward. You don't have to keep reminding us.

    But do keep up the good jerk...


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