Joshua Swamidass- Dishonesty or Foolishness?

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Over on Peaceful Science Joshua spews:

The deep irony is that mainstream secular science is already consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.

Only if  "Christian and theistic convictions" mean that no God worth worshipping exists. As if it had to be said-

In other words, religion is compatible with modern evolutionary biology (and indeed all of modern science) if the religion is effectively indistinguishable from atheism.1

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The frequently made assertion that modern biology and the assumptions of the Judaeo-Christian tradition are fully compatible is false.2

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Evolution is the greatest engine of atheism ever invented.

Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent.3

As the creationists claim, belief in modern evolution makes atheists of people. One can have a religious view that is compatible with evolution only if the religious view is indistinguishable from atheism.4

click here for a hint:

‘Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear … There are no gods, no purposes, no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end for me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning to life, and no free will for humans, either.’ 5

Thank you for your honesty Will Provine.



1- Academe January 1987 pp.51-52 †

2-Evolutionary Progress (1988) p. 65 †

3- “Evolution: Free will and punishment and meaning in life” 1998 Darwin Day Keynote Address 1 2 †

4- No Free Will (1999) p.123

5- Provine, W.B., Origins Research 16(1), p.9, 1994.


The earth just happening due to gravity and the collapse of a cosmic cloud is not on par with Christian beliefs.

Joshua Swamidass obviously has no clue at all. If he was my doctor I would find another and very quickly.